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I am having a little difficulty figuring out just exactley what APSense really is, what it's going to be? We're a Business Social network..right? Get paid to Promote your business...used to be "the TOP business social network" Is it now simply a place to post a profile and some ads? It seems like there is very little networking taking place. I mean, if this is just a place to post ads, and people just come here to advertvise...who's gonna read the advertising? My opinion, if this is simply a place to advertise the words business social network might as well be removed...because it seems like all that is happening is people are joining, setting up a profile, some ads..maybe a blog and then they are gone! And they never see the REAL potential that some of us know to exist. Perhaps if we took a better look at the words "business social network" it would shed a little light on my issue...as defined by webster's dictionary: Busi-ness: A persons professional dealings or occupation So-cial: Having to do with people living in groups; enjoying friendly companionship with others. n. An informal party or gathering. So-cia-ble: Capable of friendly social relations; enjoying the company of others So-cial-ism: A system in which people as a whole, and not individuals, control and own the property. Net-work: A system of interlacing tracks, channels, or lines; an interconnected system. Okay, so one might assume from the mixing of these works that APSense is a community of Professional People who enjoy communicating with each other, and together OWN the system that has connected us. Hey, isn't this kinda what forums are all about? Some others words for forum: marketplace, court, tribunal, council, symposium, panel, town meeting, Bull Session! Enough of my rambling... I am calling on EVERYONE who is a part of this community to come out and tell us why you are here! What is it that you like, hate, love....Why are we here and just what are we trying to accomplish?? What makes APSense so special anyways...why should anyone be a part of it? Advertising? Communication? Networking? Tell US!! Tell ME! I need to know...before I continue to do anything here!
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 Hi Garnet,
You asked one very good question. I assumed that you had already knew many other social networking sites too. But more than 90% people on Apsense have their own online business. I can say APsense is one "purely" business social network. When people first come to Apsense. Yes, they think they find one new way to post their ads. But later people will understand APsense is one place to group "SAME INTEREST" people together. They may learn from others, make more biz friends here too. There are thousands of new sites come out everyday, but everyone including you and me want one place where we can keep in touch for long time. We also need one clean room (groups in apsense) where no ads disturb us. This is what APSense does for you. On the other hand, APSense iChannel will be new tool for every apsensers. Now you can not only communicate with other apsensers on APSense, but also with your leads (buyers, customers, users, opt-list...) by using APSense iChannel Services. In short words, here is my idea for all apsensers what to do here. 1. Make friends and keep in touch with them. 2. Learn from others and share your knowledge with others. 3. Post your ads and explore good biz opportunities from others. 4. Build your reputation and respect others. 5. Find effective way to communicate with your leads without email marketing (clients, users, buyers.) and boost your sales too. 6. List all your business into one place - ABC. 7. Make money here as your bonus. :-) Do you have any more supplement? please let me know, thanks Apsense Co-Founder #1 Social Business Network...Driven by YOU!  Group Administrator
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| I think it's the ad posting that causes a lot of the problems. Every time AE is opened it's full of ads. Very few are anything other than 'copy and paste'. They're not telling us anything about why the biz/product would be useful, what it could do for us, how it could help, etc. The fact is that if 90% have their own business, they aren't going to be interested in joining someone else's business. What they are interested in will be networking with those other business 'people' to see if they have anything in common that will help both their businesses. Maybe if the ads were all kept separate somewhere else from the groups and discussions it might help. We could go take a look if we were interested, if not, we could get back to the primary business of networking and building relationships. Just my thoughts. San [url=http://sansmoneysecret.com]Sans Money Secretl[/url |
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| i was initially attracted to apsense as it was new, fresh, rid of a few in a community I grew to dislike and saw it could also do the same to help my business with search capabilities. I get sick of petty stuff, so I walk away from it normally. It is business to business platform so saying that, to me that rules out advertising to advertisers & business owners out of everyone we are the biggest skeptics. I guess like anything you cannot sit and wait, you have to make something happen to, when I see community members standing up and making suggestions I think this is a valuable start, who cares if there opinion is different, who wants everyone to be the same, it is boring like that. I think there is one criteria, Have fun! Lisa Lomas Do you know how to plan Success? |
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| Good to see you all back here commenting. Jenny I agree, most space on the sig would be great. And Hello again Wincer, Looking at what you had said again I com to realize their is one comment I really don't agree with at all. To Quote you: "But more than 90% people on Apsense have their own online business." From what I have witnessed and experienced doing first hand research into the community, I have very good reason to believe it is more like 10% or LESS who actually have a business. Many I think would like to believe they are in business but do not seem to know the first thing about it! The majority I see here come to post a few copy/paste ads never to return or build any kind of a relationship with anyone...and I don't even think it's all their fault when I look at the blatant LIES and HALF TRUTHS the "guru's" spoonfeed to everyone looking to potentially earn a little money off the internet like "Make Money While You Sleep", "Never Have To Sponser or Recruit Anyone or Do ANY Work", etc... On the other hand, I do believe WE as members of APSense need to do more to contact, communicate and build relationships with new members too...only problem is in many cases it is simply wasted breath as the majority sticks their head in the sand whenever they are faced with a little challenge or even the idea that they may have to answer a simple question or talk to a person. Of course, I could just be arrogant too...please correct me if and where I may be wrong! Thanks, Garnet LOSE Your Inhibitions |
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| Have I made any $$$$ selling them? YES!
Have I made any sales through Apsense? YES! Was the idea of joining Apsense ALL about the sale? NO!! Have you promoted them in your own words? YES!! Do you respond to enquiries about your products? YES!! It is not possible for me to be any different to what I am. I speak my mind and do not suffer fools gladly. Anybody who announces that their programme will pay me $1,000 a month and upwards for no effort on my part is an optimist at best - a liar, though, in all probability. Anybody who tells me that no recruiting is required is an optimist at best - a liar, though, in all probability. Anybody who tells me that he/she earned a specific amount of money, identical to the specific amount of money being claimed as earned by several other people is an optimist at best - a liar, though, in all probability. I really don't think that in a community like this, the members are expecting reams of dazzling brilliance in the adverts that they read. I think that, just as you have done, if they bothered to use Apsense to foster relationships, they would be able to write in their own words why they think you, as their friend, should be interested. You, as their friend, would probably place more value upon their own words than you would on any slick sales message conjured up by a catch-all copy writer. In my book an honest opinion is never negative, indeed, I have stated many times, it is impossible to make a negative statement. The fact that I am prepared to state, openly and without prevarication, exactly what I think appears to be something that far too many people cannot deal with. The Old Coot |
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| Hi OC, While it may be true that many of the ads here are simple copy\aste (and many of those don't even bother to edit the {FIRST_NAME} part of the autoresponder emails that they download from the websites they are promoting). I feel many times in your responses and posts that you are a bit too hasty to judge on the side of negativity. Most of the products that I promote here are products that I personally have tried and many I continue to use! Have I made any $$$$ selling them? YES! Have I made any sales through Apsense? YES! Was the idea of joining Apsense ALL about the sale? NO!! Web 2.0 is about interaction (as you so eloquently posted in another blog), friendships and contacts. Salesmanship is not about 'Hardsell' it is finding the people that truly NEED what you have to offer and then showing them what you offer truly fills their need. While some writers may be able to 'sell' ice to eskimos, how many return clients do you really think they have? I try my best to sell service and the products or membership(s) will speak for themselves. MKWeb Learn Here Earn Here |
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| Hi, Wincer,
3. Post your ads and explore good biz opportunities from others. I wish this could be enforced in some way. The vast majority of ads posted in Apsense (and similar community sites) ARE NOT the ads of the member but the ads of some remote scriptwriter. There is not a single ad that I have seen (I discount ads from anonymous members) that indicates that the member posting the ad has had any success with what they are promoting - indeed - many (because of the copy and paste aspect of ads) have the same claimed results and motivational events as most of the others promoting the same product. Isn't it about time that it became a rule that ads could only be placed in the words of the advertiser with verifiable proofs of results? I realise this would lead to a stampede of those unable to contemplate a little effort in their promotional activities - but would Apsense be any worse off without them? The Old Coot |
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| Hi all, Great to see the blog still going and Hi Wincer - very good to see you here and commenting on WHY we are here. Having joined, what now seems a life time ago - "on the run" from a place where advertising and infighting had become the norm and no relationship building was getting done - I have to admit that I was beginning to find ApSense a little stuffy and rule bound until, like Jeff, I came across a few very good and seriously "politically incorrect" people who have turned ApSense into a joy to be in. They are all serious business people who like to get to know each other and enjoy each others company and that is how we build relationships. I would hate to see this exhuberance crushed and will happily put up with the ocassional advertising pm from them, rather than see them leave. However, as we are all mainly business people - we do have businesses to bring to peoples attention and Wincer's comment No. 3 is very important. 3. Post your ads and explore good biz opportunities from others I dont like a constant plague of spam taking up bandwith - but I dont like spam witchhunts either. One thing that would certainly enhance my own personal posting would be if our signature links allowed for a little more stuff. They are very short. Then I could advertise my two businesses everytime I post. there is no room for both links - so one has to go by the board. SO..... I go to places where I can have it up there without advertising in the wrong place.and post content. I am here to make friends and improve my business knowledge and contacts. and HAVE FUN! Love to all! Jenny For Angel Lovers Earn $$s |
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| First off, I must say that my main reason for joining Apsense was because a very excellent writer and friend warned me NOT to do it... She said that she was going through a slump after suffering a needless loss and thought that Apsense, might help her out if it... Didn't work for her (Firey, Humourous, Sexy and Bold personality).
I signed up, and it took me almost six months to become active here... (Truly stultifying, if you let it become that way) until good ol Juenelle posted a very funny blog that gave me a jump-start.... Nowadays, it's the fun of writing and sharing that I enjoy most of all... It's not the money, $9.00 is all that I have made so far, and I rarely promote stuff here, unless I feel that it would be good for folks to take a look at... Some part of me likes the idea of growing with something from the beginning-- I like new things and meeting diverse folks... Making them laugh or think differently about stuff can be as inspiring as making a bucketful of money selling my inventory! :) WIN Network Seminars- Your Chance To Win! |
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| Hi Christine,
I'm not sure what you can learn either...lol...I believe pretty much anything you wish with all the people from all walks of life and different backgrounds and such. So I would ask you what you are looking to learn? Thanks for the comment Garnet LOSE Your Inhibitions |
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