Ethics in business

How to deal with referral theft?

by Paula van Dun Retired
Paula van Dun Magnate II   Retired
Today I have read an article of Andy Anderson that it is better not to use services to cloak or shorten your url except for services like Twitter.
I am now using these services. I promote my but of and when somebody likes my program and joins i do not want him to strip my ref-ID.
Andy offered a sollution by redirecting through C-panel (have to look into that, never did it before).
I also consider making blogs for my programs for seo purposes but than I still need to redirect them to my affiliate url
I already noticed the redirect services are not waterproof either.
I saw also redirect software but I have no skills to set anything up on a server.
So who has a good idea to prevent referral theft what is not to technical to do?
Oct 17th 2010 18:53

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Comments

Dawie Bezuidenhout Professional   Systems Engineer I.T.
Hi Paula,
Andy is right, i read that article of him, and he hits the nail on the head.
Instead of using these cloaking services, create domain names for your different ventures, then all you have to do is enable forwarding on that domain name to your website of choice.
Oct 17th 2010 18:59   
Paula van Dun Magnate II   Retired
Yes, i have seen that option. But than I would not be able, as opposes to create blogs for my programs, to ad metatags for seo purposes. I am now thinking i could create a blog and redirect to the forwarding. Still i would be happy with a more easy sollution. I have never tried the thing with the c-panel. My skills in these thing are not very good.
Oct 17th 2010 19:04   
Warren Day Senior   
I would still say do the cpanel thing, it sounds worse than it is. Aside from the confidence issue with the cloakers, some of them can actually knock off part of your link.(I not sure why, perhaps the ? character in some links does it). So the cloaker may stop theft but reduce clicks because people don't trust it or mangle your aff link.
You can probably find a tutorial to do this or if you need to shoot me a message and I could explain it in detail
Oct 17th 2010 19:05   
Bj aka Bill Brown Magnate I   Hosting and Backup Service provider
you can also redirect using pages of your web site. It is ALWAYS safer to only use a redirect service you know you can trust. I use both methods.
Oct 17th 2010 19:06   
Paula van Dun Magnate II   Retired
Thanks. I think i will apply these solutions for programs. not for all the TE's I am a member of, there are to many. And I need to sleep sometimes. Thanks for your advice.
Oct 17th 2010 19:11   
Philippe Moisan Magnate II   Tutorial videos, sci-fi writer
This subject is tough for me to grasp, at the point where I am. However, I put this comment here to add the topic to my watchlist.
Oct 17th 2010 19:40   
Paula van Dun Magnate II   Retired
I will explain philippe.
My ref for this site is www.apsense. com/ invite/ webmiep
(have to ad spaces or will be hidden)
People can copy this link without invite/webmiep
and paste it in the browser and than sign up. In this way they do not sign up under me.
Oct 17th 2010 19:45   
Bj aka Bill Brown Magnate I   Hosting and Backup Service provider
@Philippe you can ad to watch list without posting. look on any post at the very end of the post just above the first reply on the right hand side you will see a add to watch list link if you look there on this one you will see it says remove from watch list because you are already watching it.
Oct 17th 2010 19:46   
Philippe Moisan Magnate II   Tutorial videos, sci-fi writer
Thanks, bj. You, Cheryl and Wincer give awesome support.
As for Paula, I know that people can do what you said, but I don't get the point. Unless they want to sign up under one of their friends, which is not fair, since it's your efforts that brought theme here. I have heard of people stealing affiliate links to get the commissions themselves, and that one I understand, even though it is also theft, but the person gets a monetary result from the link theft. But to sign up under someone or other, or under no one, in a referral system, what does it change ?
Oct 17th 2010 19:51   
Bj aka Bill Brown Magnate I   Hosting and Backup Service provider
there could be several reasons for not joining under a certain person in a program, however the main reason is for spite plain and simple. they just refuse to be under the person that they saw the program being advertised but they want to join it. There are a lot of people that think they will be better of joining under the top (wo)man. what they do not realize is they could be robbing them selves of a damd good supportive up line. still their loss isn't it.
Oct 17th 2010 20:00   
Patsy j Payne Committed   konnektions konsultant
Now i feel overwhelmed. Geeee. I don't have a website, so no c-panel. I have heard from other friends that they won't click on a short url because they don't know where it goes, good point. Maybe I can use TE or another redirect. I'll have to stew on this one for a bit.
Yeee, you guys really make me burn the midnight oil, but I love it.
Oct 17th 2010 21:17   
Paula van Dun Magnate II   Retired
Thanks for all the feedback folks. Have to sleep on it since it is half past 4 midnight here in Holland
Oct 17th 2010 21:21   
Andy Anderson Professional   Owner Yuma Bloggers
I love the blog use, and use several blogs to perform a sort of lead in to the program where I can capture leads and keep my traffic plus do a touch of optimizing. If your blog is powered by Wordpress you can grab both free and professional plugins for automating SEO task at least somewhat. All In One SEO is the one we use the most.

In you domain registar account even without cpanel, as Warren Contreras pointed out you can click on the domain manager and create sub domains and redirect each subdomain record to one of your links if you use Go Daddy or Host Gator, or for that matter Enom and DPR. The end link would look like keyword.mydomain and you can do 99 of them for a cost under $10 a year. Domain redirects do not retain traffic and ranking in the same way as a blog but will defend the link.

Andy
Oct 17th 2010 22:30   
Dave Gilbert Senior   Web Entreprenuer
the way i see it is that if a person is so intent of robbing you of your dues by removing your referral link then that is a person i don't want in my downline because it shows they are basically dishonest and untrustworthy
Oct 19th 2010 07:08   
Paula van Dun Magnate II   Retired
I tried the cpanel thing. Is also not waterproof. But I guess it will be good for more exposure for the main domain as well? Or does it now work that way?
Oct 19th 2010 07:19   
Dawie Bezuidenhout Professional   Systems Engineer I.T.
@Dave, i completely agree. Those are usually the people that revert to SPAM tactics and unethical marketing tactics, i don't want people like that under me.
Oct 19th 2010 07:45   
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