I am so tired of positive is perfect

Damn, Arthur, your Life has been Hell! Like I've said earlier about you, you are a modern day Job and a modern day Stoic! The fact you have retained your right mind and dignity through all you have been through is a testament to the resiliency of the Human Spirit. If I were God, I would be pleased with your perseverance.

Roosevelt, you were right about forgetting where something is posted - my comment is on my own article so I wasn't censored.

Hi, Roosevelt, the power of love is very much over-rated. My second wife was a beautiful woman and we had two lovely children. Our lives were "lovely" but love was not enough. The trouble with love, as I so painfully discovered, is that it pulls a blind-fold over your other senses and what should be obvious is hidden from you. Love is like a dangerous drug that dulls the senses. Imagine the shock and horror I felt when my wife, whom everybody thought was very happy decided that she must die - an

Hey, Arthur, we have two or three articles on this same subject, so it's easy to forget what we commented on and where! "Idealists are impossible to live with because no matter how hard you try, you will never fit into the idealist's world." Without Love, the idealist will detrimentally put his or her ideal above anyone or any thing else. Without Love, the pragmatist will detrimentally put his or her survival above anyone or anything else. A loving idealist and pragmatist can work together to ac

No Arthur I did not remove your Post. Glad you reposted it.

Was I censored? A post I made about nine hours ago has diasappeared so I will try to replace it. Pragmatism and idealism are not the opposite sides of a single coin. A pragmatist accepts what is and will not make vain attempts to change things once he realises the real situation. An idealist believes that the universe revolves around himself and that everything should accommodate his wishes and desires. Pragmatists are fairly easy to live with because they stand on their own feet, create their o

Hi, Fred, you have made some very good points but there is one aspect of positive thinking that has not yet been mentioned. Many times in my medical advisory capacity I meet people who claim to be "positive". Their problem is that their level of being "positive" precludes them from taking any action FOR FEAR OF FAILURE. These are like christians who so fear God that they will not do anything that they consider sinful - and everything to them IS sinful. What you think and the way you think it can

I think I have figured out why we have this seeming disagreement about "positive thinking. Some of us are by nature "idealists" and other of us by nature are "pragmatists". Idealists find pragmatists to be pessimistic and pragmatists find idealists to be foolish but in order for humanity to advance and become more perfect, we need both idealists and pragmatists, just like the proverbial battery needs both positive and negative poles. I am a idealist but I thank God for my pragmatist brothers and

No my original article did not stress that positive thinking is bad it stressed that positive thinking without the acknowledgement of negative is bad. If we are going to function and succeed as human beings, both have their place.

Really, we are all on the same page. The tenor of your unedited article Cheryl is that "positive thinking" or "positivity" in and of itself is bad which in further discussion you have clarified by saying in essence, "positive thinking" to the exteme or "Faith without works" is bad, which all of us wholeheartedly agree. Fred, thanks for sharing that quote. I love it!

I agree positive Action begins with positive thought, the problem with the 'Think positive' movement is that it never progresses for point A to Point be. The entire belief system is based on think positive, nothing else. Every time I see another think positive post stressing how successful you will be just by thinking I want to puke. Because these people pushing think positive continually harp on thinking and the words work, effort and action are not in their vocabulary. Everything comes dow

I forgot to mention - just my thoughts: The positive thinking of a PROACTIVE positive thinker is what enables him/her to think of the right actions to take to realize his/her goals and also enables him/her to withstand the "storms" that will surely be encountered along the way to attaining the goal.

Thanks for your comments Cheryl and Gerry. I too have a problem with positive thinking taken to the extreme. By this I mean positive thinking without the the actions that are required to make goals a reality. This is what I understood the last bit of the quote that I used from the article from www.selfgrowth.com to mean (i.e "put your ENERGY towards that which you desire, not what you don't want.") . If you ask me, I've always thought that having goals, thinking positive, believing that you will

You keep talking about taking action Cheryl. Surely after reading my posts you don't think I condone just sitting back and thinking at a problem to solve it. I have always and will always advocate taking action. That's the ONLY way things get done, but positive action begins with positive thought.

And that has been my whole point Garry. When you get off your butt and take action to do something about your situation that is realism, not positive thinking. Thinking is not an action. Think positive is an expectation because the idea is that by thinking you can change things. Nothing changes until you yourself take actual action to change it.

Garry I fully agree with you social promotion is stupidity; stupidity conceived, enacted, reinforced and encouraged by the die hard belief that positive thinking overcomes all. It does not, thinking accomplishes nothing without action. I can sit here and positively think that I will be a millionaire 24 hours a day 7 days a week, but unless I get off my rear end and take the action necessary to achieve it I will still be sitting here 10 years from now positively thinking and no closer to being

Positive thinking DOES NOT place emphasis on expectation over action. Not in any way whatsoever. You cannot sit back and wish for things to happen. You have to take action to bring about a result. What you have a problem with cheryl are the people who take positive thinking to an extreme. I have the same problem with those people. It's not realistic and it's not healthy and it usually results in negative, rather than positive, results. But don't throw the baby out with the bath water. Do

I have know quite a few drop outs Roosevelt, but I knew many more students that got left back that adjusted their educational goals to what they were good at and went on to make successes of their lives because they were aware of the fact that they could not keep up academically. Rather than continue on in the academic mainstream those chose to go vocational and ended up graduating adept at a skill that they could leverage for success instead of sitting there with a high school diploma and 2.0

I don't consider social promotion to be positive thinking, I consider it to be stupidity. I keep trying to say this but it keeps being ignored, There is a HUGE difference between a positive thinking person and someone who lives in a fantasy world. Things are done all the time in the name of "being positive" but that doesn't mean that it is. I see people here and elsewhere that make statements that are much too broad for the topic at hand. @Fred, I totally concur with the statement you prese

Fred in a way what you are saying is a paraphrase of the Serenity Prayer "God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, The courage to change the things I can and the wisdom to know the difference." where positive thinking again thinking is a passive expectation-not action breaks down is the fact that positive thinking places emphasis on expectation not action. Realism recognizes that you acknowledge the existence of the negative and take action to influence a positive outcom