How well do you know God?
One of the things that I despise about many religions is the absolute belief in what the priests promote and the resultant disdain for any other belief system.
In the Christian religions, for example, priests have long blessed troops going to war despite the exhortation by God to turn the other cheek.
Priests have long taken upon themselves the right to judge other people even though God teaches against this and even though they were created equal and in God's own image.
Priests have worked in collusion to ensure that physically aggressive leaders are elected to promote the use of force as a normal, routine and patriotic duty.
The churches break, as a matter of daily routine the commandments which were handed down by God.
There is tremendous cruelty in the world against animals that are raised as food even though the first chapter of Genesis makes it quite clear that God gave mankind the fruits and seeds of the plants and trees that grew in the earth for meat.
The dominion that man was given over the walking, creeping, crawling and flying things upon the face of the Earth has been allowed to degenerate into a wholesale exploitation of these gifts. The needless slaughter of God's creation is enough to damn each one of us.
Although God did not directly preach against wealth (although He did warn of the difficulty a rich man might have in getting into Heaven) it is significant that there is not a single Christian church that does not have an amassed measure of wealth. The major churches are so obscenely wealthy that they are quite capable of ending world famine by the application of some of their liquid assets. At the same time, they seek to amass even more wealth by appealing for donations to feed the poor - donations which go to the church and disappear into the vaults.
How well do you know God?
Do you really believe that the vengeful God of the Old Testament has turned into a toothless tiger that sees nothing but hypocricy and evil among those who claim to be His followers?
Do you really believe that mankind, today, is even worthy of His consideration for immortality?
The heavens are occupied by countless stars with countless planets and I am sure that on one of those planets is a race that God might want to spend eternity with. I am also sure that the planet is not our Earth.
The evil that is mankind cannot be allowed to continue to exist after the wholesale slaughter that it has committed, after the endemic lies that form the political arena and after the sheep-like following of the general public of the most evil of all men.
We had our chance - and we blew it.
Please discuss.
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Comments (78)
Arthur Webster7
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Hi, Rexiedexie, if we cannot know better than things having a beginning and an end, why is it so simple to accept that an all-powerful God existed in a massive void for all time? Surely it is just as simple to accept that the universe and all it contains has existed for all time?
MichaelAp Clayton14
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Fred Life's journey is the key to learning who we really are. The most contentment we can get on this earth is simply to relax and think of nothing.
MichaelAp Clayton14
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Old Coot good to see your firing up and well. Going way back in time it is documented by scientists that there were periods on this earth where no weapons could be found. A time period which lasted many hundreds of years. Beginnings and endings are only a human belief because we do not have the intellectual capability to know better.
Arthur Webster7
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Hin Rexiedexie, that is certainly a possibility but even God must have had a beginning. As for men and women going back to doing all things for love, this can not happen because it has never been the case. Men and women have always done all things for survival.
MichaelAp Clayton14
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Hello all I think we are all part of God. If in the beginning there was only God... What did God create/ make everything from. I think He/She Father Mother Life created the universe in another detention to himself/inside his energy. We must all experience what we do to others in order to reach a perfect equilibrium in order to reach a higher dimension and live a peace with God All.. It is necessary for us to experience pain and suffering here on earth to be able to fully appreciate Heaven. For o
Arthur Webster7
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I watched a very interesting film last night called "The Man from Earth". I shall be watching this film again because thre are ideas and concepts that need to be explored. I don't think I learned anything new but I did get a better idea of where my questions fit into the chronology of mankind's existence.
Fred Mugone15
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Well summed up Arthur and Roosevelt: "... maybe the journey to the truth is more important than the attainment of the truth."
Roosevelt Evans III10
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"After a life-time of seeking answers it is very frustrating to still have questions but maybe the journey to the truth is more important than the attainment of the truth." Well said, Arthur, well said.
Arthur Webster7
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Hi, Gerry, I am pleased that you have benefitted from this discussion. One of the benefits of this type of discussion is that if you avoid the knee-jerk response and the indoctinated response, you can see routes to a response that are a little different. These routes can cause you to re-think what you already believe or they can reinforce what you already believe. These routes cannot weaken your beliefs because it is not you who is questioning them, you are defending them. After a life-time of s
Arthur Webster7
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Hi, Roosevelt, to say that God is Love is a bit like saying healthy grass is green but it does not explain why God would want humanity. On Earth god has given us the supreme example of total and unconditional love. If you are around dogs much, including dogs badly ill treated by their owners, you will know that a dog gives love no matter what cruelty is inflicted upon it. It is heart breaking to see a badly beaten dog crawl to its "master" wagging it's tale (if possible). Mankind is generally "g
Gerry Copenhaver5
Team Leader
Old Coot, there really is no way for me to answer your questions to your satisfaction. I am going to repeat myself yet again, it comes back to what you believe. I don't believe as you do. I believe in the Bible and trust it as a reliable source of both information and guidance. You do not believe such. At this point I respectfully bow out of this series of comments. It has been both enlightening and eye opening at the same time. I had to stop and rethink a couple of my own opinions and I
Roosevelt Evans III10
Home Business Entrepreneur
'The biggest mystery and one which I have considered at some length is what possible use an all powerful, all knowing God could possibly have for the human race." Arthur, this is where Unconditonal Love comes in. The human race cannot give an all powerful and all sufficient God anything except Unconditonal Love for Him and all others. The Great Commandment taught by Jesus is to Love God, your neighbor and yourself. Unconditional Love is the essence and power of all existence, Arthur. God grant
Arthur Webster7
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I suppose if I had any faith at all in any of the verses in the bible I might also use it to try to prove my arguments. In the case of Judas it is a very fine point to say that God knew that Judas would betray Jesus but that does not change the fact that, according to the bible, Jesus made the prophesy that he would be betrayed and that a change of heart by Judas would have destroyed the whole fairy tale. I believe that Jesus did not intend to forgive sins not yet committed - the forgiveness of
Roosevelt Evans III10
Home Business Entrepreneur
Arthur, I believe the Bible in the stories of Job, Joseph and Jesus Christ teaches that God "recompenses" us for our sufferings, whether from physcial imperfections or the result of the evil intent of others. Why God allows suffering will always be a Mystery thus demanding that we trust God unconditionally like Job when he said, "Even though You slay me, yet I will trust You" and as Jesus said, "Not my will but Thine" (my paraphrases of those verses)
Gerry Copenhaver5
Team Leader
"mplies that Jesus intends to save more than His contemporaries' - Of course Jesus intended to save more than His contemporaries, that was the whole point of what He did. You believe it's a story that priests made up for profit. I believe it is absolutely true. I don't see us finding common ground.
"Judas had no option but to fulfill the "prophesy" of his master." - This doesn't necessarily have to be the case. If God is all knowing and can see the future then He knew what Judas would do. Y
Arthur Webster7
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Hi, Rexiedexie, I have read some texts claiming to be letters from Jesus Christ passed through His recorder on Earth. These are a cynical attack upon the sensibilities of people looking for answers but not prepared to ask the questions. Like "the secret" they are a marketing exercise claiming some mystical empowerment. Like the group that you have linked to, they seem to want to restrict themselves only to those people prepared to accept the general concept and who, by joining, express a degree
MichaelAp Clayton14
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Hello Friends I have come to my own peace with GOD. Since I was a child I could not understand the teaching that God is everywhere. But know having read Christs letters 2006-2007 and Spiritual evolution, I am convinced we are all part of GOD. So God is everywhere. See http://www.apsense.com/group/futureworld
Arthur Webster7
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I have asked this question before but do you accept the teaching of the christian church that Judas was an evil traitor? For most christians Judas is probably the one man they love to hate. This hatred was generated, not from any genuine distress, but by the very priests who would have you believe their every lie. IF you accept the story in the bible, Jesus told His disciples that one of them would betray Him. Some versions even accept that He named Judas. To bring about His crucifixion, Jesus h
Arthur Webster7
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Hi, Gerry, mankind, while it beathes, can be said to consist of souls but the dead are no longer souls since their autonomy has been terminated. The priests have always promoted life after death but the christian priests refined the concept by introducing "Judgement Day" in order to maximise their financial returns. The idea that the human body actually rose from the grave gave the priesthood massive leverage on the rich by their threats of damnation if certain rituals were not followed and by b
Gerry Copenhaver5
Team Leader
I'm going to back up a little bit because I missed a few posts here. The soul. Does man have one? Yes, and so does my dog and my goldfish. The word in Genesis, and throughout the OT is Nephesh (that which breathes, the breathing substance or being). It's not some disembodied entity that leaves the body at death. If you are alive you have a soul, if you're dead, you do not. BUT, the Christian believes in a resurrection, that there is more to the story. See Hebrews 9:27 for my personal v