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Has your ponzi paid you today?

by Louise Venison TE owner, affiliate marketer
I've been very disturbed by the increase in so-called "profit share" sites appearing all over the traffic exchanges and also here at APSense.

Basically, these sites sell shares (which sometimes come with a nominal ad-pack or other "product" that it's claimed makes the site legal), and with each new share that's sold around 90-95% of the money is shared equally between existing share holders.  These sites can be very tempting because they promise a quick return with little or no effort.

The trouble is, while the early share holders make money, this is nothing more than a money-circulation scheme. The reason they make money is because people who join the scheme later lose all the money they put in and never get anything in return.  Ultimately, the scheme dies a natural death, if it isn't shut down first by the authorities and its owners (and possibly people who have promoted it) prosecuted for involvement in a ponzi scheme.

Yes, these programs are illegal in most countries.

Here's how the US government describes ponzi schemes:

"A Ponzi scheme is closely related to a pyramid because it revolves around continuous recruiting, but in a Ponzi scheme the promoter generally has no product to sell and pays no commission to investors who recruit new "members." Instead, the promoter collects payments from a stream of people, promising them all the same high rate of return on a short-term investment. In the typical Ponzi scheme, there is no real investment opportunity, and the promoter just uses the money from new recruits to pay obligations owed to longer-standing members of the program ... both pyramid and Ponzi schemes are illegal because they inevitably must fall apart. No program can recruit new members forever. Every pyramid or Ponzi scheme collapses because it cannot expand beyond the size of the earth's population. When the scheme collapses, most investors find themselves at the bottom, unable to recoup their losses."

To read the full FTC statement regarding pyramids and ponzi schemes, visit this website: http://www.ftc.gov/speeches/other/dvimf16.shtm

I don't claim to be totally innocent of involvement in ponzi schemes.  Some years ago, I was caught in the collapse of 12DailyPro and the paid-to-surf industry.  I witnessed the suffering of family and friends who I had introduced to the scheme, so I have personal experience of how these sites wreck lives.

Sadly, the same defensiveness and anger that became common in those days is starting to appear now.  Today, I received an abusive email from a member of my traffic exchange because I had suspended his profit share site.  Every day I see people attacked on networking sites and traffic exchanges for pointing out the truth about these ponzis.

If your ponzi paid you today, congratulations.  But try to think about the people who it won't be paying tomorrow.

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About Louise Venison Senior     TE owner, affiliate marketer

311 connections, 8 recommendations, 841 honor points.
Joined APSense since, September 12th, 2008, From Malaga, Spain.

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Comments

Paula van Dun Magnate II   Retired
I fell for it on too about 2 months ago. I do not promote it any more. I will never join something similar again.
Oct 23rd 2010 10:41   
Cheryl Baumgartner Professional Premium   Medical Billing/Coding/Insurance
Kudos! However speaking the truth about these schemes always makes you a target. People do not want to hear the truth. I had to laugh this morning when I was accused of being "Blinded by the facts and attempting to get the truth on the table"

And I wasn't even dealing with a ponzi! I just gave honest consumer feedback on a product!
Oct 23rd 2010 10:45   
Cheryl Baumgartner Professional Premium   Medical Billing/Coding/Insurance
By the way, I made sure to share this one!
Oct 23rd 2010 10:48   
Netra B. Advanced   Social Media/ Marketing Expert
Interesting...
Oct 23rd 2010 12:28   
Ed Blount Professional   Business Owner and Mentor
Well said Louise. I confess to joining one of these a while ago but no longer pronote them once I had done further research.
Oct 23rd 2010 12:32   
Dawie Bezuidenhout Professional   Systems Engineer I.T.
Welcome to the anti-SCAM Club Louise, like Cheryl said the white knights of these programs don't like us much for revealing the truth. I will link your post to my Blog. Well done, the more people that start spaeking out against these programs the more people we can help to steer clear and prevent them from getting burned.
There will however always be the ones that don't listen.
Oct 23rd 2010 12:45   
Pete Balasch Jr. Magnate I   Internet Marketer Pod caster
I agree With you what is Wrong is there no real internet marketers around any more ? Everyone wants to do nothing and get paid. Its really too bad what a waste. There are some good programs out there but most are trash.
Oct 23rd 2010 13:05   
Cheryl Baumgartner Professional Premium   Medical Billing/Coding/Insurance
Pete I have seen estimates as high as 80 to 90 percent of all online WAH's being scams. You are right even on the low end of the estimates it's well over 50% that translates into most them being trash
Oct 23rd 2010 13:18   
Patsy j Payne Committed   konnektions konsultant
I too fell for 12dailypro. I lost about $25, I was very fortunate. You'd think I learned my lesson,NOPE, I fell again. Oh well, second time is the charm. I had the naive to believe that the law would protect us, Haa.
Oct 23rd 2010 14:00   
Ahmed Uzair Senior   Web Designer and Internet Marketer
I agree with you louise, many unprofessional people jumping into internet marketing because of recession, they just want to earn money, from where and how that's not a matter for them..
Oct 23rd 2010 14:24   
Pete Balasch Jr. Magnate I   Internet Marketer Pod caster
12dailypro Was a Total Mess and Peoples Payment processor Accounts were Frozen. I hate to see this happen to folks again So think Twice before you join one of these Kinds of programs. Do you really want your Alert pay Account to be Frozen I bet you it will happen.
Oct 23rd 2010 15:10   
Louise Venison Senior   TE owner, affiliate marketer
I would like to see AlertPay refusing to provide their service to these programs now. The majority of people who want easy money like the convenience of being able to use AP. If AP dropped the programs, it would make it a lot less convenient for people, and even if the programs didn't die a natural death, they'd be reduced to insignificance. AP is making it as easy for ponzis to operate now as StormPay made it back then, and it's making me nervous.
Oct 24th 2010 04:13   
Irene Blackett Committed   Marketing Tools And Training
Ty for this detailed information.
Oct 24th 2010 04:26   
Emma Padilla Senior   Affiliate Marketer
I'm with you Louise! I admire you for having the guts to speak out about these disgusting, scamming sites! Thank you for banning them on Hits Booster Pro (which is one of my favorite traffic exchange)

Every time I see these crooked sites on Sweeva I give them the "thumbs down" and write the reason why. My sons and I also lost money with these sites. They especially like to crop up when the holidays are near.

I don't care who gets angry about it, I will continue to speak out about them. It's sickening and they need to be stopped! I also agree with you about Alertpay. They really do need to ban those sites as well.

Thanks again Louise. :)
Oct 25th 2010 09:09   
James Bonham Committed   tweetsmaster
100% anti SCAM I trust SafeAdZone also look to eagleresearchassociates.org for updates and info
Oct 29th 2010 08:53   
Paula van Dun Magnate II   Retired
@Emma I do the same on Sweeva and Surfvo. Profitsites and Kooday and other scam sites thumbs down!
Oct 29th 2010 09:10   
Patsy j Payne Committed   konnektions konsultant
I thought I was a Lone Star. I'm glad I'm a member of an ethical team of people.
Oct 29th 2010 12:39   
David Mc.... Advanced   
Ya i know about these schemes. avoid them like the Plague. Good advice !
Oct 30th 2010 13:37   
Sue and Shawn Kelly Committed   List Building Experts
The sad part about it is that many people who have been out of work for a year or more fall for them due to utter desperation. I hope many see your information so they can recognize the difference
Oct 30th 2010 16:49   
Cheryl Baumgartner Professional Premium   Medical Billing/Coding/Insurance
More importantly than see it, take heed to it.
Oct 30th 2010 17:04   
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