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Burk Elder Hale and Bionaid: We Became Victims of His Misdeeds

by Claus Nicolae Nielsen Internet Marketer, SEO specialist
This is dedicated to the long-lost genius of a formula known as Bionaid and how the man behind it – Burk Elder Hale, has very shockingly transformed from being a light worker, going through a near-death experience (NDE) to receive messages from god, and devoting his life to the creation of water products like Bionaid that serve to better humankind – to something unimaginable by our standards.

By “OUR” we mean the few of us who have collectively been subject to the wrongdoings of Burk Elder Hale in business.  This includes Claus Nicolae Nielsen of Denmark who is the European distributor of Bionaid, Rodney of England who is the U.K. distributor of Bionaid, and Clarence Lee, the Asian distributor of Bionaid.  We have gathered sufficient evidence and hearsay from others who have had experiences working with Burk Elder Hale before and they mostly reinforce our stories.

As this is an introduction to much more content and evidence coming up, we will summarize the essence of what has happened.

Burk Elder Hale has pretty much cheated us of all our money amounting for Bionaid from the last year.  We are talking about amounts above $10K.  In upcoming posts, we will scan real bank statements, provide printscreens of real gmail chats so you know we are not pasting the text out and modifying them.  We have nothing to gain out of this except to expose Burk Elder Hale’s true colors as he has been very vile in the way he has dealt with us and whilst we can let that go and simply not associate with him anymore, he does this in the name of God and uses the same tricks on many others.

The Bionaid Donation Trick of Burk Elder Hale

How does he do it?  Well, like many companies do, when their distributors put in an order, they normally have to pay up front in cash.  Thank god we can provide proof of our bank transfers.  When Burk Elder Hale receives the money for stock of Bionaid, he either goes in hiding and doesn’t reply for months, or he cooks up a story or scenario that says we are not entitled to the stock or “special price” he promises.  There are many scenarios here so don’t get confused just yet – just know that he has many means to manipulate you.  The first half a year or many months of business dealings with him, Clarence and Claus have sung many praises of him, this can also be proven in email conversations.  They pitied him because each time he was uncontactable for long periods of time, he would eventually contact us and explain how he has been attacked by evil proponents attempting to suppress his product.  We believed him constantly and paid a price – with a real numerical figure.

Burk Elder Hale dealt with all our pleas and requests for return of funds by saying that he has had legal disclaimers on his website saying that all purchases of Bionaid and other products are regarded as donations.  Yet it works exactly like a business transaction – i.e. you pay through PayPal or bank wire in exchange of products.  In all our email conversations with Burk Elder Hale, there is no mention of “donations” whatsoever and all there is to our partnerships is merely a payment of a certain amount for a certain amount of goods. Period.

Now, Burk Elder Hale has erected this unfair disclaimer to nullify all his deeds.  It is in his goodwill to give us stock of Bionaid as we are donors, not business associates.  Yet all our conversations were made on the clear basis that we were associates.  By many country’s legal standards, his ploy would definitely fall under some Unfair Contract Terms Act.  But how do we, living in other corners of the globe, make a legal case without getting ourselves burnt further?  We are not some legal game players or manipulative maestros … we are people in the wellness industry trying to promote a good product… that’s all.

The true Bionaid Donation principles Of Burk Elder Hale?

What’s worse – whilst we initially try to make sense of this by saying it’s maybe because Burk Elder Hale had been through such a rough ride that he has turned out like this and will only be temporary – but he is worse than just a thief.  His apparently holy heart doesn’t seem that holy after all.  When Elder first pulled off a similar trick on Rodney sometime back and Rodney didn’t receive the right amount of stock after paying, there came a time when Rodney asked for just a few bottles of Bionaid for his sick mother.  Burk Elder Hale didn’t bother to reply.  But he replied to us of course.

The same thing happened to Claus when his son Odin was ill and he needed Bionaid stock badly just for himself.  Burk Elder Hale had already pulled off the same trick by then, refusing to send stock of Bionaid after Claus had paid him.  But this is a man-to-man request, asking for just a few bottles of Bionaid for his little boy.  Even if there were differences, Burk Elder Hale could simply say that he “would give in” to his requests on his son’s account if he had a heart.  But of course, he ignored.

Then came Clarence’s case, where Burk Elder Hale appeared after yet another of his long hiatuses, and told both Claus and Clarence that he just came out of hospital with a lot of bills to pay and that he had made a special arrangement with his manufacturer to give us a special price on Bionaid to reward us for our understanding, kind words, and offers to help him – offering Burk Elder Hale sanctuary in our own countries when he said he was being hunted down by bullies, cops, and assaulted badly.  Of course, we fell for that and Clarence proceeded to buy generous amounts of Bionaid on the premise of good price and that it would help Burk Elder Hale with his medical bills etc.

Of course, he didn’t give the Bionaid stock.  Burk Elder Hale suddenly, out of nowhere, said the money was in Bruce and Marianne’s hands.  Who on earth are they?  He told us we don’t need to know – but just know that they are thieves who have cheated him.  When we give him the money, it’s his responsibility to see to it that we get what we have transacted for or compensated us.  Now he tells us he is hunting down Bruce and told Clarence to do the same.  What?? How is he supposed to do that from Singapore? He is not Buddha or some supreme master!!  Anyway, Bruce and Marianne are the same people from Progressive Radio Network. If you know them, please tell them to verify this information.  Even if they did play Burk Elder Hale out, he is responsible to Clarence anyway.  And there is NO need for him to use his “donation” clause!!

I have heard of other wellness enthusiasts who have been for Burk Elder Hale’s lectures sharing with each other that they have undesirable business dealings with him.  If you are one of them, please speak out.

Is Bionaid of Burk Elder Hale Really What It Promises To Be?

Also, Burk Elder Hale has long been using Dan Nelson’s name for his water technologies and whilst I admire Dan Nelson’s work, technologies and personality, many of us (both distributors and users) have found that the Bionaid product of Burk Elder Hale do not produce the same results as earlier batches.  We have tried the teabag experiment and even using Bionaid neat doesn’t produce a result much different than that of distilled water whilst a machine-filtered water like Kangen produces instant mixability with the teabag even at a cold temperature!  How can Dan Nelson’s water be like this?  It is simply impossible.  If you want to request for a live demonstration of this experiment using real stock of Bionaid, let us know.


Here comes PROOF that Elder admitted he owed me, but did not ship anything to me yet EVEN HE HAD STOCK OF BIONAID! From Gmail chat 24. Jan. 2012, yet I payed him end of Nov. 2011 and some even in the spring of 2011. He kept promising, and came with all his stories, and I waited and waited, my ill customers waited and waited, but nothing ever came.

Go to 22.50 for evidence that Burk Elder Hale owed me stock to keep my business going.

And 22.54 for evidence that he had stock of Bionaid, but I should not assume anything about myself! WTF! Now, is that arrogance? Not only, it is illegit business as well.

And remember at this time I had paid him $5000 all in all and had not seen a single product for around 9 months.

Or just enjoy his tone and remarks on the way there!

Elder Hale elder777@gmail.com
24. jan.

til mig (to me)
22.13 mig: I hope you make a lot of new business with the money you have stolen from me!

29 minutter
22.43 Elder: Trying to get at equally impotent comment back from me Claus, or are you just wanting to attempt to ruin my day by projecting more of the same ELF everyone is getting dosed with? You'll get neither.
  I wrote your and others several weeks ago that I was doing something special for those friends that have stood by me for a long time - lost patience?
22.44 mig: Didnt get anything from you Elder
 Elder: Care to elaborate on that vague remark?
22.45 mig: Didnt get the email you are talking about
22.46 ???
  I have searched back to middle of Dec now and nothing...
22.47 Elder: Well it was sent BCC to my close circle of friends. I sopke about V3 and the projects going on now. And I mae it a point to state that my friends that have stood by me, expecting they would know who they are, would be getting something special from me.
 mig: The last mail I have from you was a reply to my "status" mail of the 16. Dec
22.48 Elder: No need to be in low-spin-state Claus. Fight it.
 mig: Well, seems I am not ur close circle of friends then...
22.49 I am just chilling after a long work day
  and I am upset as well of course
 Elder: What is going on with you - totaloly not chilling with me.
  totally
22.50 mig: so did you send this mail to me?
 Elder: money, right? you are having a tough time, and you are venting.
  Yes, it went to you, Clarence and several others.
22.51 mig: pretty tough with a window open that our appartment may have to go on auction yes..
 Elder: My associate Robert is in Fiji right now, back on Thursday.
 mig: what date was that?
22.52 Ass in?
  Ultamex?
 Elder: Don't have time to do email searches like I have to prove something. I sent it - take my word for it or not.
 mig: no pun intended...
  more that 2 month ago then ok
22.53 Elder: Not Ulamex.
 mig: v3
 Elder: I have, through Robert and V3, some serious investors moving on Bionaid and Micarox. Robert has been a great guy - not a Bruce Curtis.
 mig: let me look, but I may have expected an update since..
22.54 Elder: Be beck momentarily - got to hand off some boxes for shipping.
22.56 mig: shipping???
  I am back to 1. Nov now and dont see any mails from you...
22.57 Ok, thought you didnt have any Bionaid or I guess I have a few coming my way...
23.00 Elder: Yes, shipping. No need to assume anything about yourself. If you can keep a lid on the attitude I still want to work with you and do something very special for you when the money comes in,
23.01 I want to set you up in biz with V3mig: ok, cool, does it take big investment from my side
23.02 its MLM or how?
23.03 so v3 is the hydrogen water, nothing to do with Bionaid right?
23.06 Elder: Mut you assume?
  Must you assume, typos today..sorry
 mig: pardon me, but I am back to the 1. Oct now. I have heard about v3 from you, but that is looong time ago and no update.
  ???
23.07 I am asking a few questions???
 mig: Who is cross here?
  Yes, I have seen that one
 Elder: There's an answer to help prevent the endless questions filled with assumptions.
23.09 You started off with a very impotent remark and you ask me who is cross..LOL...c'mon Claus... :)
23.10 mig: so you wanna answer my questions or how?
 Elder: How long has it been since you seen that website?
 mig: TheRiverBank?
 Elder: Aye.
23.11 mig: not sure, some months perhaps
 Elder: It states what I am planning to do, but it does not go into details about my special projects I have in mind for those like you.


Great if he had 'special plans' for me/us, just a pity I/we never received them on email as he claims, even more a pity that he let me and my ill customers wait and wait while he invested my/our money without my/our prior consent in V3 (that failed). That is not legit business. So in the end NOTHING came my way.
 

Bionaid Exposed at Squidoo.

Watch these spaces in the future for updates on Bionaid and on Burk Elder Hale's behavior:
BionaidExposed.com
BurkElderHaleExposed.com


About Claus Nicolae Nielsen Freshman   Internet Marketer, SEO specialist

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Comments

Clarence Lee Junior  Certified Lymphologist, Advanced Nutraceuticals Re
I am one of the major victims! We can prove his misdeeds with real scanned bank transfers, email conversations (screenshots not those cut and paste types where you can edit content) etc... Please comment if you have experienced similar encounters with this guy!
Sep 10th 2012 00:16   
Claus Nicolae Nielsen Freshman  Internet Marketer, SEO specialist
I have worked so hard every night for 2-3 years for Bionaid, often daytime as well, instead of spending them with my wife and small baby, donating sooo many hours of my time, for very little actual profit, still he believes that I surely need to donate my last money as well!! What can I say more...
Sep 13th 2012 12:05   
Burk-Elder: Hale, Third. Junior  Visionary Co-Creator
The terms of service for this website, Facebook's website and my own websites are being violated in numerous ways by the people posting this libelous rant here. I have the information to prove it, but to make my point I hereby offer a $1,000,000.00 REWARD IN GOLD to anyone that can prove the comments adverse to me in this atrocious article with verifiable evidence. These same people, on other sites linked here have claimed to be distributors of Bionaid, and that is another absolute lie. It is not uncommon to see such abuse on the www. I have over 10,000 supporters world-wide and people obtain Bionaid from all over the world. Say a prayer for these people as they appear to be mentally challenged or outright abusive. They have no proof to support their absurd claims made here and if they do have the proof and evidence they are free to provide it and collect the huge reward. For those of you that see this webpage, feel free to contact me through the Bionaid websites. I have nothing to hide, and lots of life-saving information to reveal. Many Blessings ~ Elder
Oct 17th 2012 17:49   
Burk-Elder: Hale, Third. Junior  Visionary Co-Creator
Such good has been done with the assistance of my associates and supporters, I will be presenting a documentary film called "Water Of Immortality" at the Cannes International Film Festival (Festival De Cannes) in early 2013 A.D. Projects are moving forward with the American Veterans Association to help American Veterans (which may also be hated by those attempting to defame me here). There are also projects involving the Native Americans here at home, and foreign projects going on in Africa involving esteemed governmental officials in Africa that will also be featured in the film documentary "Water Of Immortality".
Oct 17th 2012 18:03   
Picard Yves Junior  Health Care
I wonder how it is possible to offer such $ 1,000,000 in gold for such a casual case of fraud related to some dozens thousand dollars. Two questions emerge. Where is the proof showing that such gold really exists? How is it possible to get such an amount? From previous frauds? Or the same fraudulent bionaid-donations affair?

On another hand, the Cannes International Film Festival is not in early year, but from 15th to 26th of May, 2013, which is rather the middle of the year. By the way, this festival doesn't display, in the official selection, any documentary film of such very "exotic" and speculative topic.

This is another fraud...when someone uses a prestigious name to make believe that something is relevant or of any importance.
Oct 18th 2012 12:30   
Picard Yves Junior  Health Care
A new thread emerged on Godlikeproductions forum about this case

Please, share your experience on this proper thread, named BURK ELDER HALE: A CASE OF FRAUD IN NEW AGE PRODUCTS
Oct 19th 2012 13:37   
Picard Yves Junior  Health Care
Another day without any proof of (from Burk Elder Hale) :

- the consumer benefice of the product BIONAID,
- the 100,000's of thousands of testimonies,
- the $ 1,000,000 in gold Burk Elder Hale offers to his critics,
- the Cannes International Film Festival film selection in which Burk's documentary film "Water of Immortality" is supposed to be selected,
- the existence of the City of Hargrave,
- what Burk Elder Hale did since 2005 for this "city",
- all the "donations" Burk Elder Hale claims to make,
- the answer for cancer,
- the motto "Love Rules" in acts,
- surely forgot some other weird claims...


Hey Dude, don't wait anything from Burk Elder regarding anything, especially the testimonies in the 100,000's of thousand. Why? Because if you want to know them, you must go the page of testimonials here:

See the link for trioxysilver dot com

The intro of the testimonials page is CLEAR:

This website is part of the Range Guide Network, and there are serious legal considerations we have to address and maintain to continue our endeavors.

The testimonials presented are under the terms of service and use for the Range Guide Network, are private, secret and strictly confidential, and for Users and Members only that agree with the terms below.

If you believe that free speech about testimonials of dietary supplements, like BIONAID™, are deemed drugs because of claims associated with dietary supplements leave this website immediatelty and never return or refer anyone to this website.

For the protection of all concerned, those wishing to see the private testimonials regarding BIONAID™ must agree to the terms below, being a User of this website and it's content. By clicking on the "I agree!" link below, you are attesting by being an adult and agreeing by your own free will with the following contractual Agreement and all terms of service and use of the Range Guide Network:

Then, go to the agreement PDF page that you must agree with first, and accept that:

Should User choose to act upon this information, he/she will hold the Range Guide Network, Burk-Elder: Hale, Third, Burk Hale, Inc., and all supporters blameless when they choose to exercise their free will in applying the information, for their personal use, as they deem appropriate.

TRANSLATION: BURK ELDER IS NO RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYHING.

All matters to which the User is directly or indirectly involved, conversations, written material, activities, identities of other supporters, officers or affiliated organizations that are revealed through User in this Network shall be kept secret and strictly confidential.

TRANSLATION: EVERYTHING YOU SEE, HEAR OR TOUCH IS A SECRET, AND YOU MUST FUCKING SHUT UP!

The User understands that the offer of products, or their use, shall not be interpreted as a remedy, treatment, drug or cure for any physical or mental problem. Further, if User has experienced health symptoms that are a concern, they are advised to seek the advice and services of a Medical Doctor.

TRANSLATION: BURK ELDER LOUDLY CLAIMS BIONAID IS A CURE FOR MANY MEDICAL PROBLEMS (HE EVEN OFFERS $1,000,000.00 BECAUSE BIONAID MAKES BETTER THAN VACCINES), BUT YOU MUST AGREE THAT BIONAID SHALL NOT BE INTERPRETED AS A REMEDY, TREATMENT, DRUG OR CURE FOR ANY PHYSICAL OR MENTAL PROBLEM. IT MEANS BELIEVE ME IF YOU WANT, BUT I AM A CONTRACTUAL LIAR.

"If User uses any products noted on this website and experiences a reversal in any unhealthy symptoms of
a medical nature that are legally restricted to treatments or mediation my licensed medical professionals (User agrees that the reversal of any healthy symptoms of a medical nature that are legally restricted to treatments or mediation my licensed medical professionals) are totally and completely coincidental".

TRANSLATION: BURK ELDER DIDN'T WRITE THE AGREEMENT PROPERLY (twice the same sentence; twice "my" instead of "by"). BURK ELDER HALE SAYS HIMSELF THAT IF THERE IS A BETTER HEALTH WHEN USING BIONAID, IT IS PURELY COINCIDENTAL AND DOESN'T COME FROM BIONAID. BUT, HE DARES TO OFFER $1,000,000.00 IN GOLD TO ANYONE CHALLENGING HIM, ESPECIALLY THE VACCINES PROMOTERS, AND USES SUPPOSED SECRETED MILLIONS OF TESTIMONIALS TO MAKE YOU BELIEVE BIONAID IS A CURE ALLOWING IMMORTALITY.

The agreement finishes by rules in case of breach where the User must pays 150% of the whole expenses:

User agrees to indemnify (pay all costs) to the Range Guide Network, Burk-Elder: Hale, Third, Burk
Hale, Inc. and any of it's supporters, in the event they breach any of the above provisions and terms,
for one hundred and fifty percent (150%) of all costs incurred by Range Guide Network, Burk-Elder:
Hale, Third, Burk Hale, Inc. and any of it's supporters, officers, and, or agents. User shall never bear
witness against Range Guide Network, Burk-Elder: Hale, Third, Burk Hale, Inc. and any of it's
supporters, officers, and, or agents in any adverse or hostile manner whatsoever.

User agrees to indemnify (pay all costs) to the Range Guide Network, Burk-Elder: Hale, Third, Burk
Hale, Inc. and any of it's supporters, officers, and, or agents in defending, litigating, negotiating, and,
or settling any claim arising out of, or being a contributing factor to a breach of the terms and
conditions of these terms of service and terms of use.

SO, NEVER CLICK ON "I AGREE" OR YOU WILL BE EATEN. SO, YOU ARE FORCED TO BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE MILLIONS OF GOOD TESTIMONIALS! BELIEVE HIM OR DIE.

But remember that Burk Elder Hale says himself that he is a SOUND HONEST BUSINESSMAN, AN AMAZING DUDE!

NEVER SAW SUCH A CONMAN!
Oct 21st 2012 06:32   
Picard Yves Junior  Health Care
Hello all,

I would appreciate if anyone of you would post this whole long text below in the forum godlikeproductions at the topic called: Burk Elder Hale: A Case of Fraud in New Age Products. For an unknon reason, I am unable to even access to this forum anymore. Please let all the symbol in these symbols [ ] (b, i, u, color) for the text is clearer once translated in bold, italic, lined and / or coloured.

This text should give many arguments to Claus and his fellows for legally suing Burk Elder Hale. Here is following the text to post on Godlikeproductions (go to the topic name above through the search function at the top of the main page, then click on the reply button, then copy / paste the whole text below as it is presented here). THANK YOU VERY MUCH IN ADVANCE!


Here are some new interesting, but not so surprising, developments:

[b]Proof from Elder Hale's own website testimonials that I was indeed an authorized distributor of Bionaid. [/b]

www dot squidoo dot com/burk-elder-hale-bionaid-we-became-victims

Atn this link, you find the same article that OP pointed out, followed by a new article (the title is just above) regarding the proof that the Danish guy, Claus Nicolae Nielsen, was really a Bionaid distributor, then followed by the readers comments.

Among the comments are those of BurK Elder Hale himself before Claus wrote this new article:


[b][u]BURK ELDER HALE (17 OCT 2012)[/u]:[/b]

[i]These same people, on other sites linked here have [b][u]claimed to be distributors of Bionaid[/u][/b], and that is another absolute lie.[/i]


Claus replied to him with this answer:

[b]
[u]CLAUS NICOLAE NIELSEN (21 OCT 2012)[/u]:[/b]

[i]Let us see the proof Elder please! And [b]how that can justify cheating us for almost $15.000.[/b] [b]I was indeed distributing Bionaid passionately[/b], putting all my heart into it for several years, every night working.

Here are some of [b]the articles[/b] (in Danish) [b]about Bionaid that I distributed on the net, some going back to 2009.[/b] [b][color=red]There is even proof from Elder's own website that I was a distributor![/color][/b] (first link below, until he removes it of course, but I still have a print screen though and LOTS of other proof), even bringing in some great testimonials through all my hard work.

[b][color=red]I guess these were from the days where Dan Nelson's water was still in Bionaid.[/color][/b] [b]I have had customers later complaining that Bionaid no longer was the same as the last batch they got, and my wife told me the same.[/b] Imagine that this man wants to expose himself here as an outright liar...

Good Lord, what else can we trust from him these days then? "Say a little prayer for you", as Aretha Franklin sings. [b][color=red]Yes, if you donate to him for the price of one bottle you may be lucky to receive one[/color][/b], if you order a case or several cases... I am not so sure... at least this is our experience, but [b][color=red]I really dont think Bionaid is what is used to be anyway. [/color][/b]

[b]We made some tests as mentioned in the article above.[/b]

Now here are a few links proving that I have taken [b]a lot of effort translating and writing articles about Bionaid[/b], plus evidence of the company I once had called BionaidDK. Why go to such efforts to pretend to be a distributor of Bionaid if I had no Bionaid to supply the customers with anyway?! Really doesnt make too much sense does it?

[b]No more proof needed to show that Elder[/b] (these days around at least) [b]is a liar, sadly as it is. A very unkind man as well I would say.[/b] Even if I accepted that my payment was a donation - which there was no mentioning of in our emails where the amount to be paid was calculated bottle by bottle - [b]he surely should supply me with his promised "gift" in return of $5000 sent[/b] (this I can proove of course).

But I did not see even a single bottle coming my way, [b][color=red]not even when my child was ill and I asked him for just a few bottles.[/color][/b] I think Elder went through some tough disappointing times that turned him this way around, but who knows, maybe his disease just got worse and worse. I think you try to do a lot of good Elder, but why screew us like this then?

[b]www dot bionaid dot us/kirsten.pdf (screenshot at the bottom of the article above)

www dot anmark-selskaber dot com/bionaiddk-v-claus-nicolae-nielsen-aop4/

www dot alternativ dot info/doc/artikler/art2009_teknologi_rummet.mv

www dot selvet dot dk/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=3417:kan-teknologi-brugt-i-rummet-redde-livet-p%C3%A5-jorden&Itemid=2204&tmpl=component&print=1

sites dot google dot com/site/sundhedskonsulenten/colloidalsilver1[/b]


Or simply google 'Claus Nicolae Nielsen Bionaid'. There is quite a lot there dating back many years...

Scan of bank statements to Burk Elder Hale can follow as well if needed. Ask for them Elder! :-)

Good luck Elder. Regain your dignity please. [/i]


So, Claus states three things, thanks to very important links mentionned above in his comment:
[color=red]
1) He really was a Bionaid distributor in Denmark with proof of it. So, Burk Elder Hale is an outright liar.

2) Burk Elder cheated him in receiving a lot of money from him without sending him back the Bionaid bottles corresponding to the price, pretending it was a donation according to the NEW terms of agreement.

3) Burk Elder has no heart. Just a greedy and evil mind. Even when his Danish distributor and dude needs some Bionaid bottles for his own illed son, he did nothing.

4) The content of the NEW Bionaid bottles has changed and it is no more efficient as it used to be with the Dan Nelson's formula.[/color]

Claus then continues with a very good news (he is going to sue Burk Elder Hale):

[b][u]
CLAUS NICOLAE NIELSEN (23 OCT 2012):[/u][/b]

[i]I guess it is convenient for Burk Elder Hale to claim that I never was a Bionaid distributor, as he indeed dares in his comments below, as he cheated me of $5000 with his suddenly appearing and very questionable "donation" disclaimer, when we had always been doing our business dealings straight up, counted and paid bottle by bottle.

If I had never been a distributor, and the main one even.... really, [b][color=red]why does he then have around 20 testimonials about Bionaid from me on his website?[/color][/b] LOL. Sorry Elder, but you are really not making it easier on yourself. This is also verifiable and documented on the Godlikeproductions forum in the thread BURK ELDER HALE: A CASE OF FRAUD IN NEW AGE PRODUCTS in case he removes them.[/i]

[i]Why is he trying to cover that up, even proving himself a liar, if he knows that he has the law on his side in regards to me violating his terms so I was not entitled to a single bottle from the $5000 "donated"? Which are the terms I violated so badly - and by doing what - that made Santa so angry that he felt I did not deserve any of my free gifts? Not even a few bottles for my ill son by request? Elder, please prove to the forum here what I did that pissed off Santa so much that made me not deserve my [b][u]Christmas-payed-by-myself-in-advance-for-presents from the man of generosity himself?[/u][/b]

[b][color=red]Yes, I saw that Elder at one point put up 'donation' buttons on his site for customers - instead of the 'buy' buttons he used before - now promising free gifts in return[/color][/b] - hopefully... [b]

But for me having been a distributor for Europe for years, I was never announced that my bank transfer to buy and DISTRIBUTE his [b][color=red]Bionaid suddenly had transformed from being a business transaction into a quite generous DONATION[/color][/b] from me![/b] After all, [u]this was my main business to sustain my life and family[/u]! Makes a lot a sense right? Fairness par excellence! :-([/i]

[i][b][color=red]I will indeed sue him[/color][/b] - as somebody also suggested on Godlikeproduktions - as soon as I am able to follow up on it in case these blogs we put up recently do not fulfill their purpose of tickling the inner Santa out of him. Sadly, these $15k that he cheated us for is not taken from generous donating millionaire's accounts... but business partners - maybe not millionaires... [b][u][color=red]and it hurts[/color][/u][/b].

But hey, good news are here! [b]Elder now declares below to give us $1.000.000 on top!![/b] In gold I guess! Bro, [b]please give us that on a legal paper[/b] huh? Just for you to not stand out as a complete idiot flashing gold bars in reward on a Squidoo blog.. [b]And I will scan them in here.[/b] I promise! ;-) Hey, [b]or I just bring my laptop to court and showcase your generous offer here right?[/b] Easy words, easy. But it could potentially become a very Golden Christmas for Clarence and I coming up right? ;-) [/i]


Remember that Burk Elder Hale himself, through different pseudos on GLP, claimed to be a [b]SOUND AND HONEST BUSINESSMAN[/b]. If it was really the case, even [b]this single mention of being a businessman clearly shows that he makes business, [u]NOT RUNNING A CHARITY ASSOCIATION[/u]!!!!![/b]

[b]He is then really a liar and a con man.[/b]

By doing a research, we find that [b]the brand name Bionaid belongs to him.[/b]

www dot trademarkia dot com/bionaid-85466415.html

Since OCT 6th, 2012, this trade mark seems to be available again. You should properly investigate through a lawyer to be sure.

At one point in time, Burk Elder should have had [b]a dispute with Dan Nelson and the previous manufacturer, the real inventor of the original Bionaid formula[/b], for (your choice):

[b]1) those weird marketing behaviors (donations instead of mere purchases), maybe to avoid to pay royalties,

2) the outright lying arguments of healing effects and biased “research testimonies” (without the bad claims of ide effects) of Bionaid and, at last, for

3) divergent financial reasons (regarding the royalties for exemple).[/b]

That is maybe / surely why Burk Elder changed [b]the original bionaid formula he used to sell under Bionaid name[/b] (now a new completely different product) which belongs to Dan Nelson. [b][color=red]In other terms, there is another fraud when using the same name (BIONAID) for two very different products.[/color][/b]

Look at the proofs now.

On the following page,

www dot trioxysilver dot com/bionresearch.htm

Burk Elder Hale clearly mentions results from researches (he didn't pay for) BEFORE the “enhanced” new water to “better” sell his completely DIFFERENT PRODUCT AND MANUFACTURER! Here are his OWN STATEMENTS AND WORDS:


[i][b]In our years of following the testing [u]Covalent Bonded Silver-Oxygen Hydrosols[/u] we have noted amazing results with university and human clinical studies. As part of our Range Guide Ezine Research Section, the studies posted below, [u]except for those regardiong Bionaid™[/u], were [u]performed by associates of our previous manufacturers on products[/u] we have advanced further with our new manufacturering associates working for BHI MFG, LLC in 2009 A.D, thus we are conducting new studies and related research to confirm their validity.[/b]

The sturdies below are experimentaal research and experimental observations, not claims of BHI MFG, LLC or Burk-Elder: Hale, Third. All information on our websites are for experimental research and providing experimental observations that include experimental observations provided as anecdotal testimonials from users of Bionaid™. Please remember that our $10 million reward in gold that was never claimed for four years speaks to the superior safety and efficacy of Bionaid™.[/b][i]

DID YOU READ IT? He wrongly uses past studies, DONE WELL BEFORE HE EVEN KNEW THEM (see the research / clinical studies samples of the years 88, 95, 96, 99, 03, 09), even saying [i]“WE have noted amazing results”[/i] as if he was part of the studies when speaking of the Range Guide Ezine Research Section (he wasn't even aware of the formula at its study time), to make believe that the new formula is directly the enhancement of the previous formula belonging to Dan Nelson.

It is as if it was a new version (trioxysilver professionnal) of the previous Covalent Bonded Silver-Oxygen Hydrosols (the one of NASA / Dan Nelson technology).

But [b]THIS NEW VERSION IS STILL UNDER STUDY, AND UNDER BIONAID THE TRADE MARK[/b], according to his own words (he'd better write this if he doesn't want law enforcement problems), [b]the very same trade mark of the actual bottles he “offers generously vs expensive donations”.[/b]

In others words, we don't have ANY scientific and specific results for the consuming of this new, specific and different formula. That's why [b]THE USER OF BIONAID IS AT RISK. EVERYTHING IS EXPERIMENTAL, LIKE FOR GUINEA PIGS.[/b] Except that the guinea pigs pay large amounts of money to be tested by Burk Elder Hale.

At least, the old formula was safier with proved results. At least, the guinea pigs were paid to be tested. Now, the new formula of his is a [b]VERY DANGEROUS NO MAN'S LAND.[/b]

But, since it's not enough to take people / readers as idiots, he adds that these experimental results of the former formula are [b]NOT CLAIMS OF BHI MFG, LLC or Burk-Elder: Hale, Third[/b], i.e. actual bionaid products, brand owner and manufacturer. He writes exactly the opposite few lines above.

So, WHY DOES HE SHOW THE EXPERIMENTAL RESEARCH RESULTS, AND SPEAK ABOUT THEM IN THE FIRST PART OF HIS BLABLABLA, TO MAKE BELIEVE THAT THE ENHANCED FORMULA IS EVEN BETTER? EVEN BETTER TO WHAT, SINCE NO CONNECTION WITH THE COVALENT BONDED SILVER-OXYGEN HYDROSOLS IS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE?

We seem to be really assholes since he asks us to, please, remember that his $10 million reward in gold that was never claimed for four years speaks to the superior safety and efficacy of Bionaid™. We are in 2012. He then offered 10 millions dollars in 2009 (where? Since we discover together the $ 1,000,000 in gold reward press release in this thread) to challenge his new formula when it didn't even exist on the maket and in any user body since no research had begun at that time! A VERY DANGEROUS GUY INDEED!

NOW IT'S 10 MILLIONS DOLLARS IN GOLD, TEN TIMES THE REWARD WE KNEW UNTIL NOW. BUT HOW TO CLAIM ANYTHING WHEN WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IS TO BE PROVED? Superior safety and efficacy of Bionaid against something which is just under experiment when the experiment could last tens of years still? What “safety” and “efficacy” mean? In what field? In what cases?

You will never know because the more you precise something to be challenged, the more you can challenge it. You will always receive an answer from Burk Elder Hale saying that the cases you would provide to challenge him wasn't what was expected to be proved. The challenge is too much blurred to ever win anything.

In fact, the challenge is just null, and then a fraud. In absence of definitions of what is to be challenged, there is no challenge at all! PERIOD.

It is as if I offer you 10 millions dollars to prove me that God doesn't exist. Until the result of this study emerge, that will never occur, I “keep” my 10 millions dollars that never existed first hand. And then you are the idiots to believe or to challenge me.

That's how and where Burk Elder Hale lets everyone of us as mere idiots and assholes. A lot of air for just an empty bottle of facts. In few words, HE IS A CON MAN.

But you can always order his products here:

www dot fractallifesolutions dot com/products/

For exemple
Purchase* Bionaid Trioxysilver Pro bottles
24 bottles of 8oz for $760!!!!!!

[b]What did I read? ORDER / PRODUCTS / PURCHASE? Oh, my goodness, then CLAUS NICOLAE NIELSEN is right to sue Burk Elder. He didn't receive the bottles he ordered months ago!!![/b]

In this other new website serving as a commercial mean to sell Bionaid and other so-called healing products, he dares to CLAIM how better (sorry, THE BEST) is his Bionaid trioxysilver pro water. He even sends the reader to a page of "scientific articles". The first article presentation clearly mentions:
[i]
The use of silver nanoparticles has become more widespread in our society. While many [b][u][color=red]believe[/color][/u][/b] that silver [b][u][color=red]can be[/color][/u][/b] extremely useful in [b][u][color=red]clinical medicine[/color][/u][/b], [b][u][color=red]FIRM EVIDENCE IS STILL LACKING[/color][/u][/b]. Thus, we present here a review of their current use in clinical medicine.[/i]

Burk Elder mixes many things: nano-particles in industry vs nano-particles in medecine; clinical medecine vs casual treatment; proved results vs no proved evidence.

BUT HE DARES TO LOUDLY CLAIM on the studies page:
[i]
Interviews by [b][u][color=red]Bionaid Trioxysilver Professional inventor Burk Elder Hale[/color][/u][/b], Third, with the man behind the science of hydrating water [b][u][color=red]contained within[/color][/u][/b] Bionaid Trioxysilver Professional, astrophysicist Dr. Dan Nelson.[/i]

See how he gets Bionaid Trioxysilver Professional close to astrophysicist Dr. Dan Nelson?

He lets you believe that Dan Nelson is ok with his "own" invention. WHAT? The actual Bionaid is the Burk's invention? Has he any diploma in science, or even in any other science in the world? NOT AT ALL.
[b]
IF DAN NELSON IS A REAL PHYSICIST, BURK ELDER HAS NO DIPLOMA AT ALL, NOT EVEN A SCIENTIFIC CULTURE![/b]
[b][color=red][face=Verdana]
HELP PLEASE, STOP HIM IMMEDIATLY.[/face][/color][/b]

There is a Bionaid™ Trioxysilver™ Professional Bioavailability Comparison Test in which this dangerous mixed statement is written:
[i]
If a particle of silver is bioactive it will crystallize when it comes [b]into contact with certain minerals such as sodium[/b]. A lab will only tell you what the PPM is and will not show you [b]its bioavailability[/b], i.e., [b]the ability of the particle to interact with pathogens or, in the case of our test, other minerals[/b].[/i]

So, the superiority of Bionaid over ALL OTHER SILVER PRODUCTS should be on its bioavailibility, its ability to interact and crystallize when in contact with other minerals. But in the middle of this explanation come the pathogenes which are supposed to be eliminated, the core reason for which you would buy some Bionaid bottles.

[b][u][color=red]BUT WHAT? THE TESTS DON'T REGARD PATHOGENES AT ALL![/color][/u][/b]
[b][u][color=red]
ALL HIS PRODUCTS ARE PURE BULLSHIT, GUYS![/color][/u][/b]
Oct 24th 2012 10:47   
Picard Yves Junior  Health Care
Here are some new interesting, but not so surprising, developments:

Proof from Elder Hale's own website testimonials that I was indeed an authorized distributor of Bionaid.

www dot squidoo dot com/burk-elder-hale-bionaid-we-became-victims

At this link, you find the same article that OP pointed out, followed by a new article (the title is just above) regarding the proof that the Danish guy, Claus Nicolae Nielsen, was really a Bionaid distributor, then followed by the readers comments.

Among the comments are those of BurK Elder Hale himself before Claus wrote this new article:


BURK ELDER HALE (17 OCT 2012):

These same people, on other sites linked here have claimed to be distributors of Bionaid, and that is another absolute lie.


Claus replied to him with this answer:


CLAUS NICOLAE NIELSEN (21 OCT 2012):

Let us see the proof Elder please! And how that can justify cheating us for almost $15.000. I was indeed distributing Bionaid passionately, putting all my heart into it for several years, every night working.

Here are some of the articles (in Danish) about Bionaid that I distributed on the net, some going back to 2009. There is even proof from Elder's own website that I was a distributor! (first link below, until he removes it of course, but I still have a print screen though and LOTS of other proof), even bringing in some great testimonials through all my hard work.

I guess these were from the days where Dan Nelson's water was still in Bionaid. I have had customers later complaining that Bionaid no longer was the same as the last batch they got, and my wife told me the same. Imagine that this man wants to expose himself here as an outright liar...

Good Lord, what else can we trust from him these days then? "Say a little prayer for you", as Aretha Franklin sings. Yes, if you donate to him for the price of one bottle you may be lucky to receive one, if you order a case or several cases... I am not so sure... at least this is our experience, but I really dont think Bionaid is what is used to be anyway.

We made some tests as mentioned in the article above.

Now here are a few links proving that I have taken a lot of effort translating and writing articles about Bionaid, plus evidence of the company I once had called BionaidDK. Why go to such efforts to pretend to be a distributor of Bionaid if I had no Bionaid to supply the customers with anyway?! Really doesnt make too much sense does it?

No more proof needed to show that Elder (these days around at least) is a liar, sadly as it is. A very unkind man as well I would say. Even if I accepted that my payment was a donation - which there was no mentioning of in our emails where the amount to be paid was calculated bottle by bottle - he surely should supply me with his promised "gift" in return of $5000 sent (this I can proove of course).

But I did not see even a single bottle coming my way, not even when my child was ill and I asked him for just a few bottles. I think Elder went through some tough disappointing times that turned him this way around, but who knows, maybe his disease just got worse and worse. I think you try to do a lot of good Elder, but why screew us like this then?

www dot bionaid dot us/kirsten.pdf (screenshot at the bottom of the article above)

www dot anmark-selskaber dot com/bionaiddk-v-claus-nicolae-nielsen-aop4/

www dot alternativ dot info/doc/artikler/art2009_teknologi_rummet.mv

www dot selvet dot dk/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=3417:kan-teknologi-brugt-i-rummet-redde-livet-p%C3%A5-jorden&Itemid=2204&tmpl=component&print=1

sites dot google dot com/site/sundhedskonsulenten/colloidalsilver1


Or simply google 'Claus Nicolae Nielsen Bionaid'. There is quite a lot there dating back many years...

Scan of bank statements to Burk Elder Hale can follow as well if needed. Ask for them Elder! :-)

Good luck Elder. Regain your dignity please.


So, Claus states three things, thanks to very important links mentionned above in his comment:

1) He really was a Bionaid distributor in Denmark with proof of it. So, Burk Elder Hale is an outright liar.

2) Burk Elder cheated him in receiving a lot of money from him without sending him back the Bionaid bottles corresponding to the price, pretending it was a donation according to the NEW terms of agreement.

3) Burk Elder has no heart. Just a greedy and evil mind. Even when his Danish distributor and dude needs some Bionaid bottles for his own illed son, he did nothing.

4) The content of the NEW Bionaid bottles has changed and it is no more efficient as it used to be with the Dan Nelson's formula.

Claus then continues with a very good news (he is going to sue Burk Elder Hale):


CLAUS NICOLAE NIELSEN (23 OCT 2012):

I guess it is convenient for Burk Elder Hale to claim that I never was a Bionaid distributor, as he indeed dares in his comments below, as he cheated me of $5000 with his suddenly appearing and very questionable "donation" disclaimer, when we had always been doing our business dealings straight up, counted and paid bottle by bottle.

If I had never been a distributor, and the main one even.... really, why does he then have around 20 testimonials about Bionaid from me on his website? LOL. Sorry Elder, but you are really not making it easier on yourself. This is also verifiable and documented on the Godlikeproductions forum in the thread BURK ELDER HALE: A CASE OF FRAUD IN NEW AGE PRODUCTS in case he removes them.

Why is he trying to cover that up, even proving himself a liar, if he knows that he has the law on his side in regards to me violating his terms so I was not entitled to a single bottle from the $5000 "donated"? Which are the terms I violated so badly - and by doing what - that made Santa so angry that he felt I did not deserve any of my free gifts? Not even a few bottles for my ill son by request? Elder, please prove to the forum here what I did that pissed off Santa so much that made me not deserve my Christmas-payed-by-myself-in-advance-for-presents from the man of generosity himself?

Yes, I saw that Elder at one point put up 'donation' buttons on his site for customers - instead of the 'buy' buttons he used before - now promising free gifts in return - hopefully...

But for me having been a distributor for Europe for years, I was never announced that my bank transfer to buy and DISTRIBUTE his Bionaid suddenly had transformed from being a business transaction into a quite generous DONATION from me! After all, this was my main business to sustain my life and family! Makes a lot a sense right? Fairness par excellence! :-(

I will indeed sue him - as somebody also suggested on Godlikeproduktions - as soon as I am able to follow up on it in case these blogs we put up recently do not fulfill their purpose of tickling the inner Santa out of him. Sadly, these $15k that he cheated us for is not taken from generous donating millionaire's accounts... but business partners - maybe not millionaires... and it hurts.

But hey, good news are here! Elder now declares below to give us $1.000.000 on top!! In gold I guess! Bro, please give us that on a legal paper huh? Just for you to not stand out as a complete idiot flashing gold bars in reward on a Squidoo blog.. And I will scan them in here. I promise! ;-) Hey, or I just bring my laptop to court and showcase your generous offer here right? Easy words, easy. But it could potentially become a very Golden Christmas for Clarence and I coming up right? ;-)


Remember that Burk Elder Hale himself, through different pseudos on GLP, claimed to be a SOUND AND HONEST BUSINESSMAN. If it was really the case, even this single mention of being a businessman clearly shows that he makes business, NOT RUNNING A CHARITY ASSOCIATION!!!!!

He is then really a liar and a con man.

By doing a research, we find that the brand name Bionaid belongs to him.

www dot trademarkia dot com/bionaid-85466415.html

Since OCT 6th, 2012, this trade mark seems to be available again. You should properly investigate through a lawyer to be sure.

At one point in time, Burk Elder should have had a dispute with Dan Nelson and the previous manufacturer, the real inventor of the original Bionaid formula, for (your choice):

1) those weird marketing behaviors (donations instead of mere purchases), maybe to avoid to pay royalties,

2) the outright lying arguments of healing effects and biased “research testimonies” (without the bad claims of ide effects) of Bionaid and, at last, for

3) divergent financial reasons (regarding the royalties for exemple).

That is maybe / surely why Burk Elder changed the original bionaid formula he used to sell under Bionaid name (now a new completely different product) which belongs to Dan Nelson. In other terms, there is another fraud when using the same name (BIONAID) for two very different products.

Look at the proofs now.

On the following page,

www dot trioxysilver dot com/bionresearch.htm

Burk Elder Hale clearly mentions results from researches (he didn't pay for) BEFORE the “enhanced” new water to “better” sell his completely DIFFERENT PRODUCT AND MANUFACTURER! Here are his OWN STATEMENTS AND WORDS:


In our years of following the testing Covalent Bonded Silver-Oxygen Hydrosols we have noted amazing results with university and human clinical studies. As part of our Range Guide Ezine Research Section, the studies posted below, except for those regardiong Bionaid™, were performed by associates of our previous manufacturers on products we have advanced further with our new manufacturering associates working for BHI MFG, LLC in 2009 A.D, thus we are conducting new studies and related research to confirm their validity.

The sturdies below are experimentaal research and experimental observations, not claims of BHI MFG, LLC or Burk-Elder: Hale, Third. All information on our websites are for experimental research and providing experimental observations that include experimental observations provided as anecdotal testimonials from users of Bionaid™. Please remember that our $10 million reward in gold that was never claimed for four years speaks to the superior safety and efficacy of Bionaid™.

DID YOU READ IT? He wrongly uses past studies, DONE WELL BEFORE HE EVEN KNEW THEM (see the research / clinical studies samples of the years 88, 95, 96, 99, 03, 09), even saying “WE have noted amazing results” as if he was part of the studies when speaking of the Range Guide Ezine Research Section (he wasn't even aware of the formula at its study time), to make believe that the new formula is directly the enhancement of the previous formula belonging to Dan Nelson.

It is as if it was a new version (trioxysilver professionnal) of the previous Covalent Bonded Silver-Oxygen Hydrosols (the one of NASA / Dan Nelson technology).

But THIS NEW VERSION IS STILL UNDER STUDY, AND UNDER BIONAID THE TRADE MARK, according to his own words (he'd better write this if he doesn't want law enforcement problems), the very same trade mark of the actual bottles he “offers generously vs expensive donations”.

In others words, we don't have ANY scientific and specific results for the consuming of this new, specific and different formula. That's why THE USER OF BIONAID IS AT RISK. EVERYTHING IS EXPERIMENTAL, LIKE FOR GUINEA PIGS. Except that the guinea pigs pay large amounts of money to be tested by Burk Elder Hale.

At least, the old formula was safier with proved results. At least, the guinea pigs were paid to be tested. Now, the new formula of his is a VERY DANGEROUS NO MAN'S LAND.

But, since it's not enough to take people / readers as idiots, he adds that these experimental results of the former formula are NOT CLAIMS OF BHI MFG, LLC or Burk-Elder: Hale, Third, i.e. actual bionaid products, brand owner and manufacturer. He writes exactly the opposite few lines above.

So, WHY DOES HE SHOW THE EXPERIMENTAL RESEARCH RESULTS, AND SPEAK ABOUT THEM IN THE FIRST PART OF HIS BLABLABLA, TO MAKE BELIEVE THAT THE ENHANCED FORMULA IS EVEN BETTER? EVEN BETTER TO WHAT, SINCE NO CONNECTION WITH THE COVALENT BONDED SILVER-OXYGEN HYDROSOLS IS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE?

We seem to be really assholes since he asks us to, please, remember that his $10 million reward in gold that was never claimed for four years speaks to the superior safety and efficacy of Bionaid™. We are in 2012. He then offered 10 millions dollars in 2009 (where? Since we discover together the $ 1,000,000 in gold reward press release in this thread) to challenge his new formula when it didn't even exist on the maket and in any user body since no research had begun at that time! A VERY DANGEROUS GUY INDEED!

NOW IT'S 10 MILLIONS DOLLARS IN GOLD, TEN TIMES THE REWARD WE KNEW UNTIL NOW. BUT HOW TO CLAIM ANYTHING WHEN WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IS TO BE PROVED? Superior safety and efficacy of Bionaid against something which is just under experiment when the experiment could last tens of years still? What “safety” and “efficacy” mean? In what field? In what cases?

You will never know because the more you precise something to be challenged, the more you can challenge it. You will always receive an answer from Burk Elder Hale saying that the cases you would provide to challenge him wasn't what was expected to be proved. The challenge is too much blurred to ever win anything.

In fact, the challenge is just null, and then a fraud. In absence of definitions of what is to be challenged, there is no challenge at all! PERIOD.

It is as if I offer you 10 millions dollars to prove me that God doesn't exist. Until the result of this study emerge, that will never occur, I “keep” my 10 millions dollars that never existed first hand. And then you are the idiots to believe or to challenge me.

That's how and where Burk Elder Hale lets everyone of us as mere idiots and assholes. A lot of air for just an empty bottle of facts. In few words, HE IS A CON MAN.

But you can always order his products here:

www dot fractallifesolutions dot com/products/

For exemple
Purchase* Bionaid Trioxysilver Pro bottles
24 bottles of 8oz for $760!!!!!!

What did I read? ORDER / PRODUCTS / PURCHASE? Oh, my goodness, then CLAUS NICOLAE NIELSEN is right to sue Burk Elder. He didn't receive the bottles he ordered months ago!!!

In this other new website serving as a commercial mean to sell Bionaid and other so-called healing products, he dares to CLAIM how better (sorry, THE BEST) is his Bionaid trioxysilver pro water. He even sends the reader to a page of "scientific articles". The first article presentation clearly mentions:

The use of silver nanoparticles has become more widespread in our society. While many believe that silver can be extremely useful in clinical medicine, FIRM EVIDENCE IS STILL LACKING. Thus, we present here a review of their current use in clinical medicine.

Burk Elder mixes many things: nano-particles in industry vs nano-particles in medecine; clinical medecine vs casual treatment; proved results vs no proved evidence.

BUT HE DARES TO LOUDLY CLAIM on the studies page:

Interviews by Bionaid Trioxysilver Professional inventor Burk Elder Hale, Third, with the man behind the science of hydrating water contained within Bionaid Trioxysilver Professional, astrophysicist Dr. Dan Nelson.

See how he gets Bionaid Trioxysilver Professional close to astrophysicist Dr. Dan Nelson?

He lets you believe that Dan Nelson is ok with his "own" invention. WHAT? The actual Bionaid is the Burk's invention? Has he any diploma in science, or even in any other science in the world? NOT AT ALL.

IF DAN NELSON IS A REAL PHYSICIST, BURK ELDER HAS NO DIPLOMA AT ALL, NOT EVEN A SCIENTIFIC CULTURE![/b]

HELP PLEASE, STOP HIM IMMEDIATLY.

There is a Bionaid™ Trioxysilver™ Professional Bioavailability Comparison Test in which this dangerous mixed statement is written:

If a particle of silver is bioactive it will crystallize when it comes into contact with certain minerals such as sodium. A lab will only tell you what the PPM is and will not show you its bioavailability, i.e., the ability of the particle to interact with pathogens or, in the case of our test, other minerals.

So, the superiority of Bionaid over ALL OTHER SILVER PRODUCTS should be on its bioavailibility, its ability to interact and crystallize when in contact with other minerals. But in the middle of this explanation come the pathogenes which are supposed to be eliminated, the core reason for which you would buy some Bionaid bottles.

BUT WHAT? THE TESTS DON'T REGARD PATHOGENES AT ALL!

ALL HIS PRODUCTS ARE PURE BULLSHIT, GUYS!
Oct 24th 2012 11:10   
Picard Yves Junior  Health Care
I just saw that the manufacturer BHI MFG, LLC, of the new (since 2009) Bionaid trioxysilver Professionnal, having replaced the true original Bionaid formula of Dan Nelson, a real physicist, since 2009, none but Burk Elder Hale HIMSELF:

www dot lookupbook dot com/profile/misc-business/ga/ringgold/bhi-mfg-llc

At this link, it is said that the corporation BHI MFG, LLC, is located:

BHI MFG LLC

702 WOODGATE ROAD,
RINGGOLD, GA  30736
CONTACT: BURK-ELDER HALE III
POSTED: 09/2009
SOURCE: Georgia Secty of State

WHAAAT?

This address is his own private physical address! We can then believe that he produces, with his own means, the so “amazing” Bionaid trioxysilver professional water! Does he pump the city water to mix it with a magical powder?

ALERT, ALERT! COPY / PASTE ALL THE PAGES OF HIS WEBSITES FOR THE COURT SERVING AS PROOFS! THE KEYWORDS OF HIS WEB PAGES (websites and other social networks such as facebook) ARE:

Bionaid
Zeoheal
Fractalsolutions
Burk Elder Hale
Range Guide
Zaya
Miracle 11
etc.

Well, to sum up the situation that could help Claus (Denmark), Rodney (UK), Clarence (Asia) and others who could follow them:

1) Burk Elder claims to heal (and kill) many bacterial infections, virus and germs with his own Bionaid water on his own websites, and on Godlikeproductions forum (topic called Burl Elder Hale: a Case of Fraud in New Age Products) through different pseudonymous.

2) Burk Elder didn't send bottles purchased after having received a lot of money for them, from numerous distributors / consumers.

3) Burk Elder Hale claims that some former bionaid distributors never were distributors, once they complain for his misdeeds.

4) Burk Elder did threat Claus Nicolae Nielsen on Godlikeproductions forum (topic called Burl Elder Hale: a Case of Fraud in New Age Products) through different pseudonymous, thanks to a Norvegian biker he would ask for beating Claus up.

5) Burk Elder Hale claims to be the inventor of Bionaid trioxysilver professional formula (AgO3) without any officially approved scientific and/or technical skills to do it.

6) Burk Elder Hale is the main and only officially claimed director of BHI MFG, LLC, anounced manufacturer of the Bionaid Trioxysilver professional water. The address of this company is his own private and physical address. There is no water production address where to officially check the production procedures.

7) Burk Elder Hale uses the same name of Bionaid that he owns, for two different products. He was not the inventor, nor the manufacturer, of the former product under the name of Bionaid.

8) Burk Elder Hale never officially noticed his well known foreign distributors about any major change in the product nor the commercial agreement (donations instead of purchases).

9) Burk Elder Hale wrongly used the names and prestige of previous inventors / manufacturers / medical institutions, and their works and papers, to sell his own self-invented products, while claiming his product is better than the other silver waters.

10) Burk Elder Hale can not produce any proof that his water is better, even the best, than the other silver products.

11) Burk Elder Hale, as a public demonstration of his water superiority, offers rewards ($ 1,000,000.00 in gold, then $ 10,000,000.00) that is impossible to win for the challenge linked with them are not correctly defined.

12) Burk Elder Hale claims to have scientific studies to prove the safety and efficacy of his water when they are none. He only bases this claim on one study that is still lacking of evidence.

13) Burk Elder Hale claims that tests have been conducted in order to prove the healing effects of his water on pathogenes when the tests were made and focused on minerals. Never on pathogenes.

14) Burk Elder Hale claims to have thousands, sometimes 100,000's of thousands, of testimonies that he can not prove to exist.

15) Burk Elder Hale creates many websites, letting believe that they are not merely his, to self praising himself and his products (in fact, there are soooo many).

ALL OF THESE FACTS CAN BE SEEN AS FRAUDS, SWINDLES, ROBBERY, CON TRICKS, DECEPTIONS, RACKETS OR SCAMS.


ADDENDUM:

16) Burk Elder Hale never proved to have $ 1,000,000.00 in gold, or $ 10,000,000.00, to reward those who would be able to challenge his claims, rewards which push potential consumers to believe him on this facing values.

17) Burk Elder Hale forces people to never sue him through his agreement and terms of services once the user / consumer click on the “I agree” button to see the bionaid testimonies on his websites (bionaid), the only way to check the opinions of other users, should any medical side effect or commercial dispute with him or his agents occur. He is then against the law since the announced “testimonials” are suddenly “research testimonials” on the said page, i.e. mere experiments on users. In other words, if consumers just trust Burk Elder Hale without checking the testimonials (then becoming research testimonials), they don't know it is about a medical experiment which is presented as an unspeakable blurred benefit product having nothing to do with remedy, treatment or drug. His products are for a better health, even for killing or fighting germs, virus, bacteria and other infections, but are not intented for that. Any improving health should then be interpreted as totally and completely coincidental. It is a pure double language. JUST CAREFULLY CHOSEN WORDS. But the facts in his postures are the opposite.

18) Burk Elder Hale states that his products are consumed as an experimental test with its clients / consumers since there is no real firm proof of their healing safety and efficacy. It is then even possible that his products are dangerous, even very dangerous, on short or long term for the consumers, particularly due to the absence of production procedures checking. NO REAL CAUTION MEASURE IS PRESENTED AND FOLLOWED BY BURK ELDER HALE FOR THE PEOPLE SAFETY. IT IS SURELY THE MOST SERIOUS CHARGE AGAINST HIM.

EACH CHARGE AGAINST BURK ELDER HALE REPRESENTS A MINIMUM LEGAL FEE AND PRISON TIME. THE MORE YOU PUT CHARGES, THE MORE HE WILL PAY FOR HIS CRIMES THAT CONTINUE EVERYDAY.
Oct 26th 2012 06:11    Edited in Oct 26th 2012 07:31
Picard Yves Junior  Health Care
HERE IS THE PROOF THAT BURK ELDER HALE IS SUGGESTING TO SOLVE MEDICAL PROBLEMS (FEELING ILL) WITH THE USE OF BIONAID TRIOXYSILVER PRO:

www dot bionaid.eu/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&catid=44%3Atri-oxysilver-text&id=101%3Afaq-1-what-is-the-suggested-use-for-bionaid-tri-oxysilver&Itemid=91

What is the suggested use for Bionaid Tri-Oxysilver?
Take one teaspoon once or twice daily or mix 4oz (half of a bottle) in 1 gal of pure, natural drinking water and drink 2oz to 8oz per day - a general, daily maintenance supplementation. If you are feeling ill suddenly, double or triple this amount. If you are feeling severely ill suddenly or poisoned by a vaccine, consume up to an entire bottle immediately, undiluted, and drink at least 24 ounces of pure, natural water to flush out the toxins soon afterwards. If you have had a long-term illness, start out with the general, daily maintenance supplementation and double the supplementation every three days, depending on how you are able to tolerate the detox symptoms, until you are taking the product every two hours during the day until the symptoms are gone. See a doctor for any medical concerns.

FEELING ILL IS A MEDICAL CONCERN!

NOTHING LESS.

HOW A PATIENT CAN MAKE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BEING REALLY SICK OR JUST NOT-SICK BUT NOT-WELL? JUST A DOCTOR CAN SAY THAT.

But here is a legal disclaimer that very clearly showz how sure is Burk Elder Hale about his product:

www dot swooshequities.com/bionaid-sydney/main.html

Legal Disclaimer:

(1) You accept all risks and responsibility for losses, damages, costs and other consequences resulting directly or indirectly from using this site and any information or material available from it.

(2) You accept all risks and responsibility for losses, damages, costs and other consequences resulting directly or indirectly from the purchase, use and consumption of goods supplied by this website.

(3) Any disclaimers, legal notices and cautionary warnings found in www dot bionaid.com and www dot bionaid.net websites are also applicable to this site.

AT THE LINK BELOW IS PRESENTED PHOENIX VOYAGE, THE NEW OFFICIAL DISTRIBUTOR:

www dot bionaid.us/phoenixrising.htm

Elder, with his manufactutrers, donated several hundred bottles of product to Uganda for clinical trials earlier in 2008.

Note: UPCOSH/BIONAID™, branded under another name for African distribution last year, is exclusively distributed to Uganda by Phoenix Voyage and their associates. Elder's previous formulation and product, formerly called by another name (OXS), was the product donated to Uganda for clinical testing in 2008.

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SEE PHEONIX VOYAGE DISTRIBUTOR:

pvhi dot info/pv_health_corner.html

We just see a commercial banner for Bionaid which directly sends you to Burk Elder website. In other words, there is NO DISTRIBUTION PARTNER. That's how he presents THE OFFICIAL DISTRIBUTOR...

...WITH THE HELP OF ZAYA:

www dot zaya.tv/ayahome.htm

Note that Zaya dot tv IS ANOTHER BURK ELDER'S WEBSITE!!!!
Oct 26th 2012 10:29   
Picard Yves Junior  Health Care
In his comment below Burk Elder Hale still have the same methods to divert the core arguments. He didn't answer ANY of the 18 points presented again below.

Be sure that Burk Elder Hale produces his very small bottles of Bionaid in his kitchen because no serious factory would take into account such a small producing series. The only manufacturers who are associated with his BHI MFG, LLC, company, located in his private home, are those which send him stickers and empty bottles.

The unhygienic conditions to fill the bottles of Bionaid in the kitchen are a real problem. NONE is able to be sure about the safety of the content of any bottle of Bionaid Trioxysilver Pro. Burk Elder Hale claims that he has no bottle return. With all his previous lies, none can be sure of it. In addition, none would send back a bottle with the so expensive shipping. Consumers just don't buy again. That's all.

There is no real official distributor able to control any of the processes involved, from production to the shipping, because the only official announced distributor is Phoenix Voyage which only responsability is the put the Bionaid banner on their website. By clicking this banner, you are sent to Burk's website.

Burk Elder Hale's only skill is to fabricate stories and praises. The last one to date is his "water of immortality" documentary film that he announced to be presented at the next 2013 Cannes International Film Festival. That's a mere lie because 1) this festival will never select this kind of speculative film, and 2) this supposed film isn't even made!!!

The only thing Burk Elder Hale is able to show is his terms of services that is perfectly summed up in his legal disclaimer:

(1) You accept all risks and responsibility for losses, damages, costs and other consequences resulting directly or indirectly from using this site and any information or material available from it.

(2) You accept all risks and responsibility for losses, damages, costs and other consequences resulting directly or indirectly from the purchase, use and consumption of goods supplied by this website.

(3) Any disclaimers, legal notices and cautionary warnings found in www dot bionaid.com and www dot bionaid.net websites are also applicable to this site.

Burk Elder Hale may reject every claim presented here, there still remain FACTS when he presents NONE.

Well, to sum up the situation that could help Claus (Denmark), Rodney (UK), Clarence (Asia) and others who could follow them, here are the 18 points for which Bruce Curtis (we don't care who he is) never was responsible to any of the following frauds, and / or crimes :

1) Burk Elder claims to heal (and kill) many bacterial infections, virus and germs with his own Bionaid water on his own websites, and on Godlikeproductions forum (topic called Burk Elder Hale: a Case of Fraud in New Age Products) through different pseudonymous. He dares to give a suggestion for the use for Bionaid Tri-Oxysilver:

Take one teaspoon once or twice daily or mix 4oz (half of a bottle) in 1 gal of pure, natural drinking water and drink 2oz to 8oz per day - a general, daily maintenance supplementation. IF YOU ARE FEELING ILL SUDDENLY, DOUBLE OR TRIPLE THIS AMOUNT. IF YOU ARE FEELY SEVERELY ILL SUDDENLY OR POISONED BY A VACCINE, CONSUME UP TO AN ENTIRE BOTTLE IMMEDIATLY, UNDILUTED, and drink at least 24 ounces of pure, natural water to flush out the toxins soon afterwards. IF YOU HAVE HAD A LONG-TERM ILLNESS, start out with the general, daily maintenance supplementation and DOUBLE the supplementation EVERY THREE DAYS, depending on how you are able to tolerate the detox symptoms, until you are taking the product EVERY TWO HOURS during the day UNTIL THE SYMPTOM ARE GONE. See a doctor for any medical concerns.

FEELING ILL IS A MEDICAL CONCERN!

NOTHING LESS. Burk Elder Hale pushs people to consume more and more until the symptoms (OF WHAT) are gone. Well, when you die, the symptom have left too.

HOW A PATIENT CAN MAKE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BEING REALLY SICK OR JUST NOT-SICK BUT NOT-WELL? JUST A DOCTOR CAN SAY THAT.

JUST A DOCTOR CAN GIVE YOU MEDICAL INSTRUCTIONS OF ANY ORDER WITH ANY PRODUCT.

BURK ELDER HALE HAS NO MEDICAL SKILL AT ALL. HE IS JUST A CRIMINAL VIS-A-VIS THE LAW.

2) Burk Elder didn't send bottles purchased after having received a lot of money for them, from numerous distributors / consumers.

3) Burk Elder Hale claims that some former bionaid distributors never were distributors, once they complain for his misdeeds.

4) Burk Elder did threat Claus Nicolae Nielsen on Godlikeproductions forum (topic called Burk Elder Hale: a Case of Fraud in New Age Products) through different pseudonymous, thanks to a Norvegian biker he would ask for beating Claus up. That's a serious legal problem, even if we already knew that his motto "Love Rules" is just another false marketing trick.

5) Burk Elder Hale claims to be the inventor of Bionaid trioxysilver professional formula (AgO3) without any officially approved scientific and/or technical skills to do it.

6) Burk Elder Hale is the main and only officially claimed director of BHI MFG, LLC, announced manufacturer of the Bionaid Trioxysilver professional water. The address of this company is his own private and physical address. There is no water production address where to officially check the production procedures. THERE IS NO SAFETY CONTROL OF ANY KIND.

7) Burk Elder Hale uses the same name of Bionaid that he owns, for two different products. He was not the inventor, nor the manufacturer, of the former product under the name of Bionaid.

8) Burk Elder Hale never officially noticed his well known foreign distributors about any major change in the product nor the commercial agreement (donations instead of purchases).

9) Burk Elder Hale wrongly used the names and prestige of previous inventors / manufacturers / medical institutions, and their works and papers, to sell his own self-invented product, while claiming his product is better than the other silver waters.

10) Burk Elder Hale can not produce any proof that his water is better, even the best, than the other silver products.

11) Burk Elder Hale, as a public demonstration of his water superiority, offers rewards ($ 1,000,000.00 in gold, then $ 10,000,000.00) that is impossible to win for the challenge linked with them are not correctly defined.

12) Burk Elder Hale claims to have scientific studies to prove the safety and efficacy of his water when they are none. He only bases this claim on one study that is still lacking of evidence.

13) Burk Elder Hale claims that tests have been conducted in order to prove the healing effects of his water on pathogenes when the tests were made and focused on minerals. Never on pathogenes.

14) Burk Elder Hale claims to have thousands, sometimes 100,000's of thousands, of testimonies that he can not prove to exist.

15) Burk Elder Hale creates many websites, letting believe that they are not merely his, to self praising himself and his products.

16) Burk Elder Hale never proved to have $ 1,000,000.00 in gold, or $ 10,000,000.00, to reward those who would be able to challenge his claims, rewards which push potential consumers to believe him on these facing values.

17) Burk Elder Hale forces people to never sue him through his agreement and terms of services once the user / consumer click on the 'I agree' button to see the bionaid testimonies on his websites, the only way to check the opinions of other users, should any medical side effect or commercial dispute with him or his agents occur. He is then against the law since the announced 'testimonials' are suddenly 'research testimonials' on the said page, i.e. mere experiments on users. In other words, if consumers just trust Burk Elder Hale without checking the testimonials (then becoming research testimonials), they don't know it is about a medical experiment which is presented as an unspeakable blurred benefit product having nothing to do with remedy, treatment or drug. His products are for a better health, even for killing or fighting germs, virus, bacteria and other infections, but are not intented for that. Any improving health should then be interpreted as totally and completely coincidental. It is a pure double language. JUST CAREFULLY CHOSEN WORDS. But the facts in his postures are the opposite. Remember that the bleach kills germ, virus and bacteria as well. Would you drink some?

18) Burk Elder Hale states that his products are consumed as an experimental test with its clients / consumers since there is no real firm proof of their healing safety and efficacy. It is then even possible that his products are dangerous, even very dangerous, on short or long term for the consumers, particularly due to the absence of production procedures control. NO REAL CAUTION MEASURE IS PRESENTED AND FOLLOWED BY BURK ELDER HALE FOR THE PEOPLE SAFETY. IT IS SURELY THE MOST SERIOUS CHARGE AGAINST HIM.

ALL OF THESE FACTS CAN BE SEEN AS FRAUDS, SWINDLES, ROBBERY, CON TRICKS, DECEPTIONS, RACKETS OR SCAMS.

EACH CHARGE AGAINST BURK ELDER HALE REPRESENTS A MINIMUM LEGAL FEE AND PRISON TIME IN USA. THE MORE YOU PUT CHARGES, THE MORE HE WILL PAY FOR HIS CRIMES THAT CONTINUE EVERYDAY.
Oct 30th 2012 04:10   
Picard Yves Junior  Health Care
Here is a new version of my comments below with the proper signs to replace the '?' signs.

Instead of being in a low profile, Burk Elder Hale intentionnally chooses in his comments below to lie again and again, and to show how irresponsible and stupid he is. His 'associates' still have time to end any contract with him while they still are able to do so, now that they are aware of the fraud, before it's too late for them.

Let's rephrase his gibberish in few points to sum up his views.

1) 'My BHI MFG, LLC agent mailing location for BHI MFG, LLC is at Georgia for contact information and verification.'

Good! I suggest Claus, Clarence and everyone being cheated to send a complain to the Federal Drug Administration to check whether or not there is a clandestine / illegal amateurish lab to produce bottles of bionaid, and other products at the home of Burk Elder Hale. Here is the contact you must have to do it (start with http:// and replace DOT with a point without space):

www DOT hhs.gov/about/regions/fdaser.html
FDA Southeast Regional/District Offices

SE Region, Atlanta (ATL-FO)
60 Eight Street NE
Atlanta, GA 30309
Phone: 404-253-1171
Fax: 404-253-1207


Southeast Regional Lab (SRL)
60 Eight Street NE
Atlanta, GA 30309
Phone: 404-253-1176
Fax: 404-253-1208

I suggest all the people concerned to report the B.E.H. fraud to (start with https:// and replace DOT with a point without space)

oig DOT hhs.gov/fraud/hotline/

oig DOT hhs.gov/fraud/consumer-alerts/index.asp

oig DOT hhs.gov/fraud/enforcement/index.asp


Maybe some of the MOST IMPORTANT ONES (start with https:// and replace DOT with a point without space):

oig DOT hhs.gov/fraud/medicaid-fraud-control-units-mfcu/index.asp

oig DOT hhs.gov/fraud/report-fraud/index.asp

oig DOT hhs.gov/fraud/state-false-claims-act-reviews/index.asp



Here is how to file a complain (start with http:// and replace DOT with a point without space):

www DOT hhs.gov/ocr/civilrights/complaints/index.html

'If you believe your health care provider conscience protection rights have been violated, you may file a complaint with OCR'. Here is an interesting link (start with http:// and replace DOT with a point without space):

www DOT hhs.gov/regulations/index.html

Link of interest about the regulations (start with http:// and replace DOT with a point without space):

www DOT fda.gov/RegulatoryInformation/Legislation/default.htm


OH, BY THE WAY, BURK ELDER HALE STATES THAT 'THE MANUFACTURING COMPANY PRODUCING PRODUCT' IS BHI MFG, LLC (so, BHI MFG, LLC, is not only an agent!!!!) HERE (start with http:// and replace DOT with a point without space):

www DOT trioxysilver.com/bionabout.htm

'BHI MFG LLC is the manufacturing company producing product under The Burk-Elder: Hale, Third. Bion-Plus-Bionaid-Trioxysilver-Professional, Burk-Elder: Hale, Third...'



2) 'The factory is elswhere and is information for professional inquiries only, not for those of your ilk.'

The regulations of FDA state that any product for health use should have different tracking information such as:

Number of series of a batch.
Expiring date of consumption.
Warnings and direction of use.
Ingredients and composition list.
Factory name / location.

NONE OF THESE MANDATORY INFORMATIONS EXIST ON BURK ELDER HALE PRODUCTS. So, the main users of the factory name / location IS the consumer! Not the professionnals, among them are the DISTRIBUTORS (Claus and Clarence for exemple), even if they don't have these informations either from B.E.H.. If they don't exist it is because the products are produced in his own kitchen / home as a witness certified.

As a matter of fact, someone already complained about the new product of B.E.H. (start with http:// and replace DOT with a point without space):

www DOT trioxysilver.com/bionabout.htm

Dr. Leonard Horowitz:

'To my knowledge Bionaid is no longer being manufactured by the original source of that product, and thus it is EXTREMELY DOUBTFUL it is a true nano-silver covalently bonded to oxygen product. It does not contain 528Hz, to my knowledge, and does not contain Breath of the Earth. Get 40% off by buying OxySilver (Editor's note - a tradename previously owned by Burk Hale, Incorporated) by the case. '

SO THIS CASE ISN'T NEW. I guess he wanted to say the new bionaid IS NOT a true nano-silver covalently bonded to oxygen product since it doesn't contain 528hz.. At the same link you can read:

'All equipment, production and bottling processes by BHI MFG LLC comply to FDA guidelines for food production and comply to ANSI Standard 173, Section 8 regarding dietary supplement production that are based on those guidelines'.

He clearly states that the equipments, the production and bottling processes ARE MADE BY BHI MFG, LLC! This company (BHI MFG LLC) is then the manufacturer, according to B.E.H.'s own words, LOUD AND CLEAR. Now, what about the guidelines (ANSI) included in the FDA guidelines?

Why doesn't Burk Elder Hale display his NSF certificate like this one? (start with http:// and replace DOT with a point without space):

www DOT newtrition DOT basf DOT com/pv_obj_cache/pv_obj_id_0182F296F879FCDB39CECDA1C064FBC55FAB0100/filename/DSHEA_Brattvaag_norway.pdf

or this other one (start with http:// and replace DOT with a point without space):

www DOT shine-star.com.cn/images/nsf-gmp.pdf

Because he has none. How do I know it?

You would be interested by this link regarding the certificate he surely don't have (he would have displayed it otherwise) (start with http:// and replace DOT with a point without space):

www DOT nsf.org/business/gmp/index.asp

and this one where we can read (start with http:// and replace DOT with a point without space):

www DOT ihs.com/news/2008/nsf-update-dietary-supplement.htm


'NSF International updated the standard for dietary supplements to include good manufacturing practices (GMP) requirements to ensure consistency with the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) regulations. '

'The updated version of NSF/American National Standards Institute (ANSI) 173 - Dietary Supplements'
[ click here to get a copy of the said procedures (start with http:// and replace DOT with a point without space):
store DOT ihs.com/specsstore/controller?event=LINK_SEARCH&search_value=nsf%20173&mid=w092
]
'contains revisions to Section 8 GMP requirements that reference the new FDA requirements for both dietary supplement GMPs as well as the Adverse Event Reporting (AER) requirements that went into effect in December 2007.'

'NSF/ANSI 173 is used to EVALUATE and ANALYSE dietary supplements TO ENSURE THEY DO NOT CONTAIN UNDECLARED INGREDIENTS OR UNACCEPTABLE LEVEL OF CONTAMINANTS SUCH AS pesticides and HEAVY METALS...'

'Businesses that ...employ fewer than 20 employees must be compliant by JUNE 25, 2010.'

'Companies being audited for GMP compliance under NSF/ANSI Standard 173 are also expected to meet the compliance dates set forth by the FDA.'

'These updates will also be incorporated into NSF's Dietary Supplement Certification Program, which is based on NSF/ANSI 173.'

'Certification ensures that dietary supplements are produced in accordance with GMPs and are certified free of harmful contaminants, said NSF International.'

'NSF/ANSI 173 provides criteria and evaluation methods to ensure that dietary supplement products contain the IDENTITY AND QUANTITY OF INGREDIENTS LISTED ON PRODUCT LABEL AND THAT THE PRODUCTS ARE FREE OF ANY UNDECLARED CONTAMINANTS.'


Since there is no identity nor quantity of ingredients listed on Bionaid bottles, as far as I know, Burk Elder Hale is OUTLAW. Since B.E.H. has no NSF/ANSI Certificate to show us, He is OUTLAW (since June 25, 2010). And HE IS A LIAR UNTIL PROVEN OTHERWISE.


YOU SHOULD DO SOMETHING NOW TO SUE HIM AS FAR HE IS NOT ABLE TO SHOW THIS CERTIFICATE FOR HIS OWN BOTTLES!!


3) 'I can also provide government references and reference from a retired Congressionman'.

The only government references and reference from a retired Congressionman are very old references, written A LONG TIME BEFORE BURK ELDER HALE'S BIONAID ACTIVITIES.

But on this website, he states (start with http:// and replace DOT with a point without space):

www DOT trioxysilver.com/index.htm

'Bionaid Trioxysilver Professional, Burk-Elder: Hale, Third and our manufacturing company has been recommended by an Honorable Representative (retired from the U.S. Congress and an expert in the field of silver hydrosol technology) on his official website as the best silver hydrosol in the world.'

You will not find such a recommandation. What website it is about? Why doesn't he show this so important and excellent recommandation? No one knows.


4) 'There is more than one manufacturing facility and some are overseas'.

A lot of gibberish, ZERO CERTIFIABLE FACTS.


5) 'We can see how desperate you are...'

He meant “how desperate I am now”.


6) 'Now I do not care to take the time to engage you because your agenda is frivolous and spurious at best.'


He does not care to take the time to engage anyone here because he would loose everything faster this way. The agenda is to expose him publicly, then through legal actions. If he doesn't engage anyone, it means 1) we have NOTHING to scare about him, and 2) he is sure to loose. NO associate, if any, would engage anyone for him (instead of him). So, we are free to continue.


7) 'However, my associates, who are not to be mistakenly perceived as weak or unprofessional, will not take kindly to your false remarks disparaging their state of the art manufacturing, and they may take legal action against you.'

NO ONE BUT HIM HAS BEEN EXPOSED! His associates, IF ANY, are unknown and therefore couldn't be moved by any of our critics upon HIM. But he says he won't 'sue' anyone because 'it takes time' (LOL). So be it. I'd rather say 'it takes money' (does he have any?) to prove nothing, but that he is a con man.


8) 'I will not reveal who they are to you so that you can start directly attacking them.'

He will not reveal who his associates are, IF ANY, because there are none that would be exposed like himself, except if they fully support him in his con, being aware of it. They could even sue him because they actually don't know his wrongdoings, do they? They surely trust him, and believe his lies. They could reject him if they learn who he really is: a fraud!

By the way, at one moment in the legal procedure against him, they will be known. Then two cases: 1) they sue him, or 2) they will be sued too. Much money to be taken from him and them in that case.


9) 'I will be contacting them, after doing a screen-shot of your comments so you can erase and reword things as you have been, thinking you can get away with that.'

I will certainly not withdraw any word of mine. But what is his point of doing screen-shots if he 'does not care to take the time to engage'? He doesn't have the balls to do anything because the shame and the joke are on HIM.


10) 'You rediculous posts on Godlikeproductions served to bring out commentary from others that have stood behind me.'

All the comments supporting him ('standing behing me', LOL) and Bionaid were FROM HIM. Except, maybe, someone saying that 4 years ago, BEFORE HIS NEW PRODUCT PRODUCED BY BHI MFG LLC, he appreciated Bionaid, when produced by someone else. The posts of Godlikeproductions served to expose him, and it works.


11) 'You are digging yourselves a very deep hole and your monetary penalties are soaring through the roof.'

What is his point if he 'does not care to take the time to engage'? He wants to scare someone here? None but HIM is exposed here and elsewhere. None but him would be able to sue anyone. But this is the way around that will come, exactly the contrary. He will be sued by Claus and Clarence, and probably others. He has already dug his hole with his long lasting misdeeds.


12) 'If my associates who are tied to highly placed dignitaries in many countries decide to fly you off like pesky mosquitos, consider yourself lucky, and if not, be assured that you will be in deeper trouble that you ever imagined.'

If his associates are intelligent they will make low profile like he should have made a long time ago. As a matter of fact, his only known associate, Franck Katabalwa in Africa, just changed his profile on FaceBook and chose to hide the public wall! The joke is on Burk Elder Hale ! He is just able to threaten people but it's just wishful thinking. He will live in jail soon.


13) 'I suggest that yout remove all your lies and your hoax about a scam off from the internet while you can.'

While his associates are actually hiding themselves, he tries to impress / threaten us in order to better lead us to remove our checkable critics. THAT TRICK WILL NOT WORK. PEOPLE WILL READ MORE AND MORE HOW MUCH A CONMAN HE IS. IN FACT, HE IS THE ONE WHO IS AFRAID OF THE TRUTH...and us.


14) 'And on top of that, the sites like squidoo, who stand to face libel actions for allowing your posts may also be taking legal action against you.'

On the contrary, sites like squidoo are happy to see how successful are these articles and comments. The only thing we are doing is exposing a real con man, with certifiable facts and webpages. Clarence and Claus have a written testimony against him from someone that is very easy to prove to have been very close to him and his deceitful method of bottles production.


15) 'You were told who the thief was that refused to ship your Bionaid in his possession - Bruce Curtis, persona non grata.'

When X orders something to Y, only Y is responsible for the product involved. No third party can be invoked. The responsibility goes to Y, not Z. So, Burk Elder Hale is the only responsible for the misdeed (no product sent nor refunding). NOTE THAT B.E.H. IMPLICITLY ADMITTED THAT IT WAS A BUSINESS TRANSACTION BETWEEN HIM AND CLAUS / CLARENCE / ETC., JUST HERE! NO DONATION! AT LEAST, he implicitly confessed it.


16) 'Again, if you had one shred of evidence proving that I kept you Bionaid instead of Bruce Curtis you would have provided that evidence and obtained a $1 million reward in gold.'

$1 million? What $1 million? Where is it? Again, we don't care where are the bottles Burk Elder Hale produces himself (that would explain why large quantities of bottles are never delivered). No evidence of anything such as a location of unproven produced bottles is required by the law by the victims. The only thing that counts for the ex-distributors is to be sent the right number of bottles or to be refunded. But since the production process is unclear, the charges against him are being heavier. Burk Elder Hale could have 1) sued Bruce Curtis, and/ or 2) requested a credit at his bank to refund his clients / distributors. Every other solution is just a conman misdeed.


17) 'But it is obvious that you have no such evidence as none exists, just evidence that Bruce Curtis kept your Bionaid and refused to ship it, a real scammer that is in hiding with your Bionaid.'

The victims of Burk Elder Hale's misdeeds don't have to prove anything. If one supplier is deficient in the process fo delivering products, the manufacturer / agent must comply with the contract, that should respect lawful compliances of the USA trade regulations, and make everything possible to satisfy the contract under decent time limit. In another hand, there exist exploitation / operations insurances to face such default events. A sound and honest businessman knows it perfectly. So, Burk Elder Hale, NO PLEAS ARE ACCEPTABLE.


18) '7,500 bottles were stolen by Bruce Curtis, some of that being yours an Clause's, but the most being mine. I paid for it, and it was to be shipped to you. I sent you email showing where Bruce Curtis admitted he would comply, thought he lied.'

AS FAR AS THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF A FORMAL COMPLAIN AT THE COURT FROM BURK ELDER HALE AGAINST BRUCE CURTIS, this is just a falsified story. Whatever lawsuits against Bruce Curtis by B.E.H., this latter is still responsible for the trade contract between his company and his distributors / clients.

19) 'Your obsession with me and agenda to disparage me hs now encompassed very important and professional men that are my associates, and again, it would be in your best interest to cease with your hoax here, and all the libel you have committed.'

Before saying how important and professional men are his associates, Burk Elder Hale would better tell us who they are. Otherwise, it's just another bragging, just trying to threaten and scare people. It would work with kids and gullible people, not with real grounded men and women.


20) 'In closing, you violations of my terms of service and use are so extensive that you have exceeded the value of product Bruce Curtis was supposed to send to you.'

Since the Burk Elder Hale's terms of services and uses are illegal, nothing has being violated. The only thing that has been violated by him is the fairness of the natural trade contracts.


LAST MINUTE NOTICE:

Burk Elder Hale is changing his page of testimonials (actually 'coming soon') because he is afraid of the consequences of the former testimonials pages. I hope Claus and Clarence you made a copy / screen-shot of those former webpages (start with http:// and replace DOT with a point without space):

www DOT fractallifesolutions.com/testimonials/

At this link, you will have a good letter from a probate judge dating of 2003, WELL BEFORE BURK ELDER EVEN KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT THE SILVER WATER. At anytime this Judge support B.E.H. To make business with him (start with http:// and replace DOT with a point without space):

www DOT trioxysilver.com/judge.pdf

At this link (see bottom), B.E.H. Speaks about a former congressman (start with http:// and replace DOT with a point without space):

www DOT trioxysilver.com/bionproducts.htm

'You may request link information to a renowned and retired US Congressman's official website that recommends doing business with Elder.'

How is it possible to really trust someone hiding from public attention the official website of a US congressman who would recommend doing business with Burk Elder Hale?
Nov 4th 2012 11:17   
Picard Yves Junior  Health Care
Hello Claus and Clarence,

I have some good news! Through different correspondants (inside sources in Africa) I have got informations about Burk Elder's project. The good news is that, if he succeeds with his project, he will have money soon enough, I guess, to be able to pay you back and your lawyers for the lawsuit against him.

Burk Elder Hale is in touch with Mrs Maria Mutagamba. Maria Emily Lubega Mutagamba is a Ugandan economist and politician. She is the Minister of Tourism, Wildlife and Heritage in the Ugandan Cabinet. She was appointed to that position in the cabinet reshuffle of 15 August 2012. Previously, from 2006 to 2012, she held the portfolio of Water and Environment. Maria Mutagamba is also the elected Member of Parliament (MP), for Rakai District Women Representative. (start with http:// then replace DOT by a point without space).

en DOT wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Mutagamba

She has a bigger role in Africa as a prominent figure for global water problems. On this link you will be able to find her contact details through the reference area (start with http:// then replace DOT by a point without space):

www DOT parliament.go.ug/

She seemed to know Burk Elder Hale through his websites and local contacts and was recently (October) interested in bringing her help to Burk Elder's projects.

The projects is a documentary film called "water of immortality", or any other name, in which she would appear and help to make it happen in conjunction with other documentaries. Her main concerns is how the water is treated in Africa for a public use through the public services (surface water, boreholes, piped water, chemical and heavy metals in water, coverage of the public water, pollution and purified water problems, etc).

Through the documentary, she is looking for a better covering of her deeds in the world, (could be like a self-promoting support, along with Burk Elder Hale). With this footage project would come a conference she wants to be in. The final goal would be for Burk Elder Hale to be deeply introduced in the African business of purified water through some dignitaries. For the moment he is far from it.

So, to be short, Burk Elder is looking for an official govenmental support of his documentary and a conference. He seemed to have got an Uganda support through this Minister. But now he has to raise first ?10,000.00 from investors as he was asked (commited) by Greta Joanne Entertainment (in association with Artisan Festival International and Cannes World Peace Initiative) before signing any contract of pre-production. The total project cost is about ?50,000.00. Well, that's pretty cool! But the hardest thing is alway to sign a check from investors to ask a supplier (the film production cie) to provide a pre-production footage.

Here are the links to better understand who they are (start with http:// then replace DOT by a point without space):

gretajoanneentertainment DOT com/
(a film production company)

afiworldpeaceinitiative DOT org/about-afi/
(kind of promotion PR company)

Burk Elder Hale believes or makes believe that all of this is related to the original world famous Cannes International Film Festival, but it's not! VERY FAR FROM IT ! It's about a secondary kind of event, like there are so many in Cannes. ANOTHER LIE !
Nov 7th 2012 07:57   
Burk-Elder: Hale, Third. Junior  Visionary Co-Creator
No reward, boys! You don't have the proof and you have been busted on other websites for posting your lies and defamation. I posted the evidence that Bruce and Marianne stole your stock (and mine), refusing to ship it. That was not me doing the stealing nor am I responsible for their theft. You just don't get it and prefer to attack me. However you lose,and you owe many thousands of dollars in TOS violations. Also, other parties are investigating you, and you may be fined and/or jailed.

BTW, its a great day and donations are rolling in from supporters that no you are making up this hoax scam. One fellow, in show of support against you, donated and will be gifted 4 28-count cases of Bionaid (They, like thousands of others, love Bionaid) in gratitude for his $2,800.00 donation!
Nov 14th 2012 11:33    Edited in Nov 14th 2012 11:35
Claus Nicolae Nielsen Freshman  Internet Marketer, SEO specialist
We have not been busted for posting lies for Gods sake. How would those websites know whether it is lies of not...? LOL Some blogs have been taken down because they don't want these kind of cases because they say that they attract spammers.
Nov 16th 2012 15:33   
Picard Yves Junior  Health Care
So Elder, it's good to know that you have stock of water. You have to send it to Claus Nicolae Nielsen of Denmark who is the European distributor of Bionaid, Rodney of England who is the U.K. distributor of Bionaid, and Clarence Lee, the Asian distributor of Bionaid.
Nov 18th 2012 04:56   
Claus Nicolae Nielsen Freshman  Internet Marketer, SEO specialist
"You just don't get it" No, because it can NEVER be true that it is not your responsibility that we get our stock when we were doing business with you and not Bruce and Marianne. They can never steal our stock, only YOUR stock as YOU contracted with them, not us. We don't even know who they are.

Apart from that most of my $5000 that I lost in this tragedy was AFTER the theft (and 'going into hiding' that bad, and still? so you gave up on them), but you never sent me ANY Bionaid, due to a delayed payment from me where you ended up paying the SAME price that you would have, if I had not jumped in and ordered 5 cases on top of yours last minute to get a reduced price together - and you come up with all kinds of excuses for not sending me anything, saying you had to pay more for your cases and that I 'committed' to this, and when I could not make it because of a short deadline, you said you then would deduct the price you had to pay "extra", meaning what you would have paid if I had not jumped in. If all the money is not yet there from me, then go with your own initial order Elder, but don't take my money as well! Then sell them to me for 5-cases and not 10-cases price. OK!? So what then happened is that I NEVER got ANYTHING from you, not even a SINGLE bottle or two for my ill child when asking, even twice. Just silence and then an unkept promise at my second request. Then excuses and brutal words from you since when confronting you. I have it all on track in gmail conversation where you used your useless 'donation' disclaimer, that you don't talk so much about anymore for some reason. That's just BAD Elder. Well, actually it is called THEFT. And it is a criminal act that you one day will have to pay for. This is my promise to you.
Nov 21st 2012 21:00   
Picard Yves Junior  Health Care
Claus, just between you and me, i think that is a good point that your fragile baby at the time he was sick did not drink the water, because Elder made it himself in his home... Thanks god for that.

For the other points, you are right and BEH deserves prosecution. And he will have, it's in is future.
Nov 21st 2012 23:51   
Picard Yves Junior  Health Care
Guys, check the page 6 of godlikeproduction.

You can read for example this post of someone who knows Elder very well :

"I doubt it. Elder lives on V.A. disability in his widowed Mom's home outside Chattanooga in Ringold, GA. Likely the water now in the bottles is right from their tap and then they stick the labels on. If the water is so fabulous why is Elder so disabled drawing his check? It didn't work for him or his Mom.They seem to have Alzheimers or something as it is not like being in contact with any normal business.I do recall Elder barking about Len Horowitz buying his Bionaid and was just his own water from his place in Hawaii in the bottles.Len was cutting him out of buying the water from him or so he claimed at the time even here on GLP. It appears Elder was doing the same thing or took up the practice."
Nov 24th 2012 20:47   
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