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My time at APSense
by Garnet Nagy Social Media Consulting
I've made a lot of good connections, learned a lot about marketing online, participated in a lot of good discussions, and had a lot of fun exploring and testing things out discovering what works what doesn't and what actually harms your reputation online.
I've also said a few things I shouldn't have, peeved a few people off and even made an enemy or 2 (so be it, I still say there's nothing that can't be talked out!)
One thing I've never done is buy into some program on a members page where I see nothing but copy and paste opportunity shouting. I've never paid much mind to anyone on any social networking site who couldn't muster up a hello or talk about anything at all unrelated to their business for more than 5 seconds.
On the other hand I've always valued the input of others, whether criticizing or agreeable, I've never pretended (contrary to poplar opinion!) to know everything or be any better than anyone else. I've also always been an advocate for truth, in advertising and in real life, justice, and accountability of ones own actions on a social networking platform.
As for my future use of apsense which is yet to be determined but I am sure little will change in the way I do things, I would suggest for any newly active members, especially those newer to so-called internet marketing that they really take some time here and get to know the people in this "member-driven" community, experiment with things and have some fun with the site.
This is what worked best for me, and my time at APSense....
About Garnet Nagy 
Social Media Consulting
555 connections, 16 recommendations, 1,298 honor points.Joined APSense since, June 3rd, 2007, From The Parkland, Saskatchewan, Canada.
Created on Jul 30th 2011 15:52. Viewed 821 times.
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Arthur Webster
  Just plain honestyNice sentiments Garnet. It takes me back to when it was possible to argue without receiving maliscious personal abuse. It takes me back to when, for the most part, the active members of Apsense were worth listening to. It takes me back to when members actually had interests outside of their internet marketuing dreams. It takes me back to when members were DRIVEN not OBSESSED. It takes me back to when article comments were at least a full sentence long. Oh, and it reminds me of the days when bizz.op promoters actually understood the 'product' and were able to answer quesions about it. Of course, no-one asks questions nowadays unless they can't sign in or log on to the op. From a crusading behemoth, Apsense has become an apologetic wimp. Newbies need to be very selective about what they read - there is good stuff to be found but it is concealed behind walls of constantly renewed faesces. Jul 31st 2011 02:11 |
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Garnet Nagy
Social Media ConsultingLOL...OC I am positively tickled pink from the obsessed members, to 3 word replies, to actually understanding the product you are promoting, to the constantly renewed feces! What can your product do for me you ask?? Heck if I know but I read somewhere it's been known to spontaneously induce orgasmic experiences in people just like you and me the world over!!!! All too much I miss the days of approaching a subject from an objective and non-judgmental point of view, back when we could simple partake in discussion without fear of impending repercussions, and, coincidentally when members actually helped other members without waiting for the right moment to pounce and sign the 'helpie' into their program at $56.95 bi-weekly. My only hope is that somewhere out there lies a new crusading behemoth... Jul 31st 2011 15:26 |
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Philippe Moisan
  APSense mentor, Videos, ROI-MARTSThe best resource to help new members at APSense is the APSense Wiki. It's great because they can go there to learn the ropes then move on to build relationships and learn about SEO, traffic, safelists, whatever else they need to build their business. I do hope you stay tuned for what's coming next, Garnet. Jul 31st 2011 15:40 |
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Garnet Nagy
Social Media ConsultingObviously I predate the Wiki, did have a glance at it but that is about it. Regardless this post is more about engaging the site and it's community, there actually is multitudes of knowledge and insight buried in various faucets of the site as OC mentioned, as for whats coming next TIME will tell.... Aug 1st 2011 02:05 |
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Philippe Moisan
APSense mentor, Videos, ROI-MARTSThe thing is, Garnet, the Wiki has articles and videos about how to use the numerous features to build relationships in efficient ways, that's why I mentioned it. I refer all new members to the APSense General section then Tutorials and a few other articles, because the material has been updated to talk about the changes that happened on June 24. Aug 1st 2011 07:56 |
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Arthur Webster
Just plain honestyPhilippe - can you not see the incongruity in having a Wiki (hard to resist putting 'dippi' after that) when Apsense was always about sharing, helping and developing? I haven't had a Wkik dippi (no, could not resist it) because I can't find it - presumably it is a paid feature. Aug 1st 2011 11:40 |
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Philippe Moisan
APSense mentor, Videos, ROI-MARTSThe APSense Wiki is an add-on service, you go on your homepage, then into the add-on services section, you click on "manage", then you see the list. I think it's a better idea to point new members to the Wiki, to get them to learn the basics, then we can teach them the meat of APSense, and of course they have the choice of going to ASK!APSense or to send PMs to experienced members Aug 1st 2011 11:43 |
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Cheryl Baumgartner(CITRMS)
 Independent Associate with LegalShieldThe Idea of Personal contact between members, actually greeting a newbie and taking the time with that person and building a personal relationship between two members is no longer popular. That taking time to get to know others has fallen by the wayside in favor of how much can I post to game the honor point system. There was a time when members sent PM back and forth filled with questions and advice person to person. Those days seem to be gone and the members are poorer for it. Aug 1st 2011 11:45 |
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Philippe Moisan
APSense mentor, Videos, ROI-MARTSThat's your opinion, Cheryl, I receive tons of PMs and I take the time to answer them, but it's humanly impossible to give personal help to hundreds of new members a week Aug 1st 2011 11:48 |
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Cheryl Baumgartner(CITRMS)
Independent Associate with LegalShieldThere are thousands of member on APSense and it is not necessary for you to be involved in every relationship between members on the site. There was a time when the majority of active members where actively communicating, sharing and building relationships between each other and not just posting another ad about come join me on this get rich quick site or look how much I made on this get rich quick site. They were getting to know each other and building solid relationships in which both parties could benefit and not just people trying to overwhelm the site with posts for nothing more than getting another sale or sign up. And that is not opinion but fact. The spam posts did not overrun the news feed daily, day in and day out 24/7. Aug 1st 2011 11:55 |
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Malok Mading
 Writer and a blogger.I am taking my time at Apsense to do what I can to catch up with others online. How about you? Aug 1st 2011 12:35 |
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Cheryl Baumgartner(CITRMS)
Independent Associate with LegalShieldMalok What I am talking about is members actually communicating with each other and and not talking AT each other. Members were actually asking each other about what they did and trying to find ways to work together not trying to drag each other into opportunities. Aug 1st 2011 13:26 |
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Malok Mading
Writer and a blogger.I agree with you Ms.Cheryl. Dragging one another is misleading and does not encourage personal growth and development. Aug 1st 2011 13:37 |
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Cheryl Baumgartner(CITRMS)
Independent Associate with LegalShieldIt certainly doesn't help either person's business when both are working at cross purposes, selfishly trying to get a sign up instead of trying to support and promote each other. Aug 1st 2011 13:39 |
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Arthur Webster
Just plain honestySo, you remember the good old days too, Cheryl. I really miss the cut and thrust of open debate. It is so sad to see "articles" that do not even attempt to create a conversation. You and I have had some emotional(?), exciting(?), interesting(?) and personal(?) exchanges in years gone by and, while we may not have battered each other into submission, we certainly aired some great topics! Aaaahh - memories! <the four question marks indicate "whatever happened to that?"> Aug 2nd 2011 02:06 |
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Cheryl Baumgartner(CITRMS)
Independent Associate with LegalShieldThat is true Arthur and our debates also drew other members to come see what the hoopla was about and even add their own comments. Those articles and subject drew intelligent comments at times as long as the original post itself. And no one was hiding behind abuse or 'verbal' violence because we disagreed. And Oddly enough we still respect each other, we are still here and APsense enjoyed a lot of member activity from it, Quality member activity-not a bunch of insincere 'Attaboys" Aug 2nd 2011 07:39 |
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Roosevelt Evans III
Your Friend And Business PartnerWe can neveer go back to the past but only fight to preserve in the present what was Good in the past. You long time APSense members have great value here on APSense, but things change and evolve. The culture of APSense has changed some for the good, maybe some for the bad, but you Old Timers need to Keep The Faith in APSense. Aug 2nd 2011 07:56 |
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Cheryl Baumgartner(CITRMS)
Independent Associate with LegalShieldThe thing is Roosevelt We long time APsense members remember a time when we could speak freely without worrying about being censored or reported simply because someone doesn't like what we say. No one was deleting comments with opposing viewpoints and no one was abusing us for being 'offensive'. Tell me what constitutes offensive? That Offensive button is nothing more than a way for a member to abusively harass other members by reporting them for abuse. It the same tactic that Nazis used during their rise to power to squash the voices of any who opposed them and has no place in a society that values FREE speech. Aug 2nd 2011 08:16 |
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Arthur Webster
Just plain honestyAnother aspect that has to be contended with is the massively current process of "dumbing down". Our education systems are designed to produce failures. Our TV programmes are little more than trash. Political correctness has invaded life to such an extent that to live life to the full, you just can't help "offending" someone. Self respect is almost non existent since it is almost impossible to find anybody under the age of 30 who actually knows what respect is. Advertising has bastardised our languages in order to cut "per word" costs. The blame culture has created a shocking feeling that "If I don't rip him off, someone else will." YES things do change BUT WHY ARE THE CHANGES ALWAYS DETRIMENTAL? Apsense should have evolved into a rival for the Warrior Forum - not numbnut central! Aug 2nd 2011 09:04 |
Very good article Garnet. I can remember when the goal of APSense members was to extend a helping hand to each other.
Jul 30th 2011 19:29