Why is garbage being Topped?

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The idea of the Top It is to top articles that are of quality and value.

I posted a blog that was purely to make some tests to try tracking down why some members were having problems with the HTML editor. It content was pure garbage and the title said ignore it as it is only for some tests, yet at the point in time I deleted it, it had had 4 tops – WHY? It was just some garbage to see if the formatting messes up after a period of time.

Although it was nice to see some prepared to support me, neither I nor many other members want garbage topped. The Top it is not there to be abused.
I had more tops on that piece of trash than I have on some serious posts I have made that have had far more views. This abuse is only serving to lower the standard of posts in APSense.

Unfortunately the above is not the only incident of abuse that is happening. It is being abused by groups of people getting together and going round topping everything that the others in the group post no matter if it is pure garbage or not.

The search engine ratings do not look at how many tops a post has they look at the content and even if it has 1000’s of tops if its crap they will not list it.

I think its time that we all ask ourselves this question.

Do we want people to start looking at APSense as a site where the members don’t know S**t from Sugar or do we want them to know APSense as a site where the members recognize quality content?

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Garnet Nagy  Senior  Oct 28th 10:19
This one is worth topping!

bjantiques  Professional  Oct 28th 10:38
Hi Garnet, Thanks it will be interesting to see what happens to it, At least the top it groups cant drop it lol
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bjantiques  Professional  Oct 28th 21:45
Hi Myrtle, You may have a good point there. I will have to go take a look. My point with this thread though is not what we post but what we top. The top it is supposed to enable the good content to rise to the top. This will never happen as long as members Top something for no better reason than it was posted by their best friend, fellow program promoter, or because they have got together and agreed to top everything each other posts. There is nothing to stop anyone posting copy and paste ads if thats what they want to do and they dont understand that that is not quality content, but these types of posts should not be toped. There is no logic to seeing a post by someone that has put a lot of thought into it being left with no tops and a copy and paste ad with a load of tops. It is just making a mockery of the top it function.
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Monika Wayne  Advanced  Oct 28th 22:19
Hello BJ, we saw and ignored your post as advised. However it is human nature for some to think that they are doing good to get on your better side. What we propose is this: When someone clicks topit before it goes through a window pops up and asks why you think this should be topped. At the very least it will eliminate the lazy writer. Warmest Regards, Monika & Wayne
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bjantiques  Professional  Oct 28th 22:41
Hi Monika & Wayne, I can understand the curious taking a look and no problem with that. It was the fact it got topped that dumbfounded me. Now Naturally I want people topping the things I do that merit it, but a post with some boxes drawn on it and a couple of words in each box ? No Way.
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Monika Wayne  Advanced  Oct 28th 22:54
Hi bj, how about this then, after you top it you enter your password? Again we think at the very least it will eliminate the lazy writer. Warmest Regards, Monika & Wayne
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kuwaitlady  Senior  Oct 28th 22:55
Good Morning all, I didn't ignore it (always toooo interesting if something is forbidden.... lol), but I didn't top it. But another question... regarding the word garbage. For one may be some adds are garbage, for another member, which found the program worth to join, the add is worth to be topped. I'm for example will post my opinion to a lot of things, but I will not post big blogs, as my English is not sooo well. If I could write in German..... yes than....... lol But true.... for me team work is much more important and it's always the question "what is quality content" ? It will be always subjectiv, depend on the view of the reader. Have a great day. Claudia

heartuvgold  Advanced  Oct 28th 23:01
I've written a lot of quality articles that I think deserved to be topped but never were. So I have to agree with your point. Some people are just doing this because they think somehow it makes them more popular. Becky

Garnet Nagy  Senior  Oct 28th 23:12
You know, this gets back to things I have said before, personally I don't judge by the number of tops anyways, maybe we need to lose this feature too...then again, maybe there is just always going to be some kind of issue no matter what we do.

Monika Wayne  Advanced  Oct 28th 23:19
Exactly Garnet, lemons and oranges.
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bjantiques  Professional  Oct 28th 23:26
hi Wayne & Monica, I dont think it matters what we do there will as Garnet says always be issues. all we can do is try to encourage people to be more selective.
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Monika Wayne  Advanced  Oct 28th 23:40
Such is life: Not our quote, but it is well known in Australia.
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bjantiques  Professional  Oct 28th 23:41
Hi Claudia, I take your point one mans rubbish is another mans gold as they say. I used the word garbage in the title as that was a good decription of the post I had made for the tests I was running. I will not say persee that copy and paste ads are garbage but they are certainly not quality content you can find the identical information in the miriad of spam emails you get each day as well as on the site that the poster want us to go look at. Now if you have seen this over and over again you get immune to the ad and it does not get people to go look at the site. If we want to post an ad then we need to come up with something original to get the attention. Things like why the poster thinks we should join not why the owners that created the site and the ads for it think we should join it. I have a promotion starting next week but there will be no copy and past in the articles I write about it that I can assure you. I will be telling people why I like it and why I use it. Now some may be interested some wont fine by me. The other point is I will place them in the classifieds section which is where they belong.
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bjantiques  Professional  Oct 28th 23:43
Hi Becky I know exactly how you feel. I have threads that are useful information with over the 1000 views yet the tops in comparison are very few.
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CatHead  Advanced  Oct 29th 00:25
Could it be a subtle hint? If I had a choice between reading a blog with a box on it, another apsense how-to, or lynn bragging about how great she's doing I'd pick the box everytime!

bjantiques  Professional  Oct 29th 01:00
Hi Cathead, If you are so confident that you know everything about APSense which is constantly evolving, good for you. There are those that are new and need to learn and appreciate the help they find in those articles. As for you comment about Lynn, She has done well and is showing that with effort it can be achieved. I am sure that when you get there you will be just as happy as she is. .
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Arlene  Magnate I  Oct 29th 06:50
Cathead, Bj and I usually stay out of each others blogs. Unless we really feel the need to speak or we have been personally addressed. Being proud of an achievement, is far from bragging. This is also an anchievement that does take a great deal of effort on ones part to reach. It also gives others incentive to continue down their own road to success. Which is the way most members would and have taken it. It is amazing what one can accomplish with positive actions, instead of negative ones. Take care, Lynn

Alas y Cia  Professional  Oct 29th 09:06
Hi Bj, Although you are totally correct about the blog that you singled out as not being worthy of topping - and you had even said to ignore it - it is sad to see anyone calling things posted on ApSense "garbage" . One man's meat is another man's poison and we need to be mtolerant of what people wish to top. I am sure that I enjoy things that some other people might privately consider crap and visa versa. This is a multinational and multicultural community . Thank heaven we do not all think the same way! That would make for a very dull community. Not being "in the know" and I don't know if there are "cartels" of people topping each others work. But I would be surprised if this is widespread. Like all abuse, is it usually centred on a few individuals and doesnt reflect the behaviour of the vast majority of members. If there are clear cases of abuse, the management of ApSense itself wil, I am sure, be willing and able to deal with the abusers. And the rest of us just need to learn to be a little more discriminating. Unless there are any rule changes in the pipeline - I think (apart from serious abusers) we will have to live with this one - until we get used to changing our topping habits. And maybe some of the "overtopping" is just a short term reaction to celebrate the dropping of the dreaded "drop" and the relief of knowing our work cant ever be dropped again by an anonymous member with a hidden agenda! LOL Human nature says that most people will always tend to top their friends contributions from choice - and however misguided we may be - we will never be able to stop this (more attractive)characteristic - it is a positive action. - better than dropping our "enemies" too! And as you rightly say - the tops do not affect search engine results - so it is not as critical as if they did. And I think we need to avoid any tendancy to see "reds under the bed". Abuse needs to be dealt with - then we need to go on our way and get on with the business at hand - writing and reading quality content THAT INTERESTS PEOPLE. Saludos Jenny
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junemac1  Advanced  Oct 29th 12:50
In joining this site I thought and still believe it has a lot of great content and is a cut above some of the others I had joined but if people are abusing things like tops etc then it will certainly end up losing some credibility. If I like something ... I top it. If I don't, I skip it. Thanks, good subjest BJ June

bjantiques  Professional  Oct 29th 15:44
Hi Jenny, I have no problem calling my test post exactly what it was, and if this post helps us become more aware of the aim of the TOP It function then it will have served its purpose.
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